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Private parking tickets / Re: Private parking ticket day after hotel stay
« Last post by jfollows on Yesterday at 03:37:56 pm »
DCBL are powerless and useless debt collectors, and can be ignored.
However, DCB Legal will likely issue a Letter of Claim followed by a county court claim which needs to be defended. For which the Notice to Keeper needs to be seen. Or is this is hire car or similar? Please give us details without identifying the driver.
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Private parking tickets / Re: Private parking ticket day after hotel stay
« Last post by DWMB2 on Yesterday at 03:37:30 pm »
I've removed that debt collectors letter - we don't really need to see it, and you'd left your full name and home address showing.

Those texts appear to have been sent on 15th...

At any rate, I'd get a Subject Access Request sent to the parking company and see what comes back - ideally you need to see the parking charge notice. In the meantime, keep on at the hotel.
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Hi, I’m new here...
Then this link would be ideal for you...
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Private parking tickets / Re: Private parking ticket day after hotel stay
« Last post by Joshai on Yesterday at 03:26:35 pm »
Links here:
[REMOVED BY MOD]
https://ibb.co/HDbc5TFd

Second link is a message I discovered showing I left the hotel the same night I checked in (14th Dec)
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Is this any better?

IMO, no.

Make the adjudicator's job as easy as possible.

Procedural Impropriety
S6(6)(a)(iii) of the Appeals regulations states “If the enforcement authority does not accept the representations, its decision notice must describe the form and manner in which an appeal to an adjudicator must be made."

In their NOR, the only information regarding appealing is contained Section 4 'How to Appeal Your decision' and the adjudicator will see that this comprises only a form issued by the Tribunal. This form has been devised to act as a guide to appellants and is useful in this regard because it includes aspects of the Tribunal's practice as well as legal matters, but does not differentiate. It is not intended to stand on its own, but to be read in conjunction with the mandatory information to be included under s6(6)(a)(iii).

But this essential information is not included in the NOR. Therefore, the recipient is not made aware of:

1. The adjudicator's power to accept appeals submitted outside the 28-day period;
2 The conditions under which a recipient may claim costs or have these awarded against them;

Further procedural improprieties arise in Sections 3 and 5 of the NOR.

Both of these sections repeat the misstatement of the council's power to increase the penalty, namely '*** 28 days we may issue/send you a charge certificate''. This is manifestly incorrect because, as the NOR makes clear, events are triggered ' normally 2 working days after posting' which in either case, whether a certificate is 'issued' or 'sent' means that the increased charge does not apply until this point, which is incorrect in law: my increased liability, if any, arises after the 'payment period' has expired: service of a CC could be anything up to 5 days later depending on the time of year.   

And to illustrate further the council's inability to express clearly and succinctly the regulations' requirements, I refer the adjudicator to this passage in S 3, How to Pay:

3 How to Pay
[Reference to discount]...Failure to pay the penalty charge at the full rate may result in the issue of a charge certificate which increases the amount by a further 50%. If the penalty charge is not the paid within a further 21 days, Medway council may apply to the county court to recover the charge as if it were a debt payable under a County Court order.

This must be paid before the end of 28 days beginning on the date of service of this notice.

Setting aside for one moment that a recipient has only 14 days in which to pay a charge certificate, I am confused by their last reference to 'This must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days etc..'.

'This' means what? The county court order, the charge certificate or what? It is ambiguous to the point of being incapable of singular definition and therefore is misleading.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Private parking ticket day after hotel stay
« Last post by DWMB2 on Yesterday at 03:20:53 pm »
If you read the post jfollows linked to above, it advises you how to do this.
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Private parking tickets / Re: Private parking ticket day after hotel stay
« Last post by Joshai on Yesterday at 03:19:46 pm »
I’m on mobile and can’t find anywhere to attach photographic evidence, apologies.
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Hi, I’m new here, similar problem to OP and I have until the 10th Sept to submit my guilty/not guilty plea. 

I did speed 35 in a 30, but never received it due to moving and not updating my V5.

Do I plead guilty to speeding on the online form, and not guilty to the failure to respond charge? Is that where you’re saying to ‘see if they’ll take that plea’?
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Private parking tickets / Re: Private parking ticket day after hotel stay
« Last post by jfollows on Yesterday at 03:14:47 pm »
http://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/

If you can’t post the original Notice to Keeper, request it with a Subject Access Request for all personal information from Parkmaven.
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Private parking tickets / Private parking ticket day after hotel stay
« Last post by Joshai on Yesterday at 02:51:45 pm »
Hey. Today I opened a letter for a parking charge from 3 years ago. First time finding out about it. Assume it was sent to a wrong address.

The charge is for £170.
Date of contravention: 15/12/2023
Client: Parkmaven Limited.
Reason for Contravention: Vehicle Remained on Private Property In Breach Of The Displayed T&Cs

Facts:
On the 14/12/2023 I attended a Christmas party at work. My workplace paid for the hotel and the parking, with the instruction to give my car registration in when getting my hotel room and they would sort the rest. I did so and then departed the next morning before check out.

My belief: because the contravention is only dated the next morning and not the evening before when parking started, I’m assuming this is some sort of clerical error on the hotel’s part? My company would have paid for parking based on the car registrations provided to them. Assuming something went wrong in this process. But it’s strange it’s only dated for the following day.

I’ve contacted the hotel. They say they don’t keep records from 3 years ago. I can evidence that I attended the hotel with my company. They said they would “look into it and get back to me”.

Surely the contravention would start from the day I first parked if I wasn’t on the list at all? Doesn’t make sense at all.

Anyway, would appreciate any advice as £170 is a lot of money.

Thanks,
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