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Oh dear, yet another PCN for this dreadful restriction that should have seen its instigators immediately sacked. Be aware that H & F will fight you all the way to London Tribunals, then not contest the case, because they are terrified what an adjudicator may say about this whole sorry affair. H & F broke just about every regulation there is in the The Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and Wales) Regulations 1996

Look at the other cases on here for this location.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/2489/contents
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Private parking tickets / Re: Tesco Welling Bellegrove (horizon) 7 july
« Last post by Yugga on Today at 11:03:41 am »
I need to get appeal in today so any help appreciated. Do you have any templates?
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GSV is dated Feb 2023, and the markings are pretty well worn out on that view of nearly 3 years ago. The law is that if you park in a marked-out bay, the onus is on you to determine what restrictions may apply. However, here, even though there is a sign,  if you parked some distance from it, there is no requirement to look, because as far as you can see, there are no parking bay markings.

However, such is the greed for cash with councils, that it is almost inevitable they will reject any representations you submit as an immediate challenge. The next stage, if you don't pay, is the service of a Notice to Owner to the person on the V5C Registration Certificate (what used to be called the "Log Book", because it was a complete record of the keepers).

So the question is, are you the V5C holder and if so, is the address up-to-date ?

is there some text on that first bit in any legistlation I can copy and past in my appeal?!
Somewhere in the dim and distant past ! You don't need to quote anything, just say that as no bay markings were seen, you assumed that parking was available and unrestricted. You could also say that the council are no doubt aware that without bay markings, any bar restrictions sign they erect has no effect in law.
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Thanks for the reply, if i login either to pay or challenge it doesn't show any photos? Are they obliged to show them or do I have to request them?
This council may not get their CEOs to take photos, although I'm surprised you haven't found any. Photos are not, surprising as it may seem, a legal requirement. It is your son's word against the CEO

The photos, if there are any, may be accessible via the PCN payment pages.
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If you go onto the council web pages, you should find pages to pay the PCN. It will be either a separate entry page to see the evidence, or a page from the entry page for paying the PCN. Normal entry is (1) PCN Number and (2) car registration.
Videos for moving traffic offences are normally there.
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I doubt you'll get anything out of London Councils. The best is probably reference to a 'should' with no timeframe in the Civil Enforcement Officers Handbook, which seems to have been withdrawn as it's no longer on the LC site that I can see.


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Interesting point.

OP, I suggest you contact London Councils(who in collaboration with the Mayor of London sets penalties) and find out what time period applies to a Code 19 contravention.

It strikes me that as it does not lie with any individual borough to set a penalty level there must be conditions attached by those who do set penalties as to when the lower penalty must be applied otherwise it completely undermines the purpose of the distinction.
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Have you obtained the DVD from TfL, see top of page 2 of PCN?

Your name and address are visible in the PCN, you might wish to redact and repost.

was trying to get the app the download

Pl take us through the process. For example, how did you know you needed an app(which app?) without exiting the car and reading the use instructions?

There is a conditional exception to the No Stopping restriction and this is that a vehicle must be charging for no more than an hour. I will bet my children's inheritance on the traffic order not attempting to deal with the process of how one charges after coming to a stop and that TfL officers put their own spin on what's acceptable.

But this might not be an issue. Clearly you stopped and did not charge therefore prima facie a contravention occurred. I bet they haven't even checked whether your car is an EV, so simple reps to this effect might be all that's necessary.

But let's see what other facts you have e.g. the process etc. 
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Please read this - top of forum front page:

READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR CASE!**, This section is for council, TFL, Dart/Mersey/Tyne etc. cases
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