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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
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This applies to parking contraventions.
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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
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Thank you.
They still need to reply to me and I'm concerned about any receipt of that with Royal Mail.  I did provide email and mobile number and stated NOT to communicate by post but doubt they will take any notice
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That's not your choice. They are obliged to serve a Notice of Acceptance or Rejection by first-class post.
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Didn't realise that! :(
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Just relax and obtain evidence re envelope etc.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
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Absolute joke of a reply:

Received a letter dated 22 July from Havering:

1.No representations made (hand delivered and video’d doing it)
2. They have issued a notice of rejection etc and no appeal (never received anything)
3. They issued Notice of rejection of Adjudicator’s recommendation (not to me – nothing received)
4. An appeal was made to an adjudication which was either unsuccessful or withdrawn !!

Total increased charge £195

Will attempt to upload the letter otherwise it is on my U drive:
Microsoft OneDrive
1drv.ms

No luck with uploading  I get a message folder is full

What's the next step please as there is no acknowledgement of the hand delivered representation?
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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
« Reply #36 on: »
Wait for the Order for Recovery which will come with the Statutory Declaration.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
« Reply #37 on: »
The details only say they may apply to County Court to register charge cert. if CC makes an Order for Recovery.  If they don't, how long do I wait?
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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
« Reply #38 on: »
They will send it when you do not pay.  Check the status regularly please.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
« Reply #39 on: »
The problem is not receiving post from them that they say they've sent.
This seems to be a common occurrence with others saying the same.
What happens if I don't receive anything?
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« Reply #40 on: »
Check the PCN status regularly.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
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@cp8759  Just reading through all the info so I'm clear on everything. Going back to your comment "grounds listed on the council website are all wrong: ground F, G and H on the council website are all inapplicable." 

I have been trying to find that on the website and gone through each section,but failed to find. 
« Last Edit: July 30, 2024, 10:49:20 am by Haveringresident »
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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
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Quote from: Hippocrates on July 28, 2024, 10:49:07 pm
Check the PCN status regularly.

I did post earlier but not sure it posted as can't see it.
14 days was up for the Charge Certificate on 4 August
No update on Havering website except charge of £195

They have a Parking PCN Online enquiry form which has a drop down for "I have not received the Order for Recovery"

Should I complete that?
It says please provide some additonal details - what should this say?

Concerned that it will go to the next step of Recovery Agents

Screenshot on One Drive:
Microsoft OneDrive
1drv.ms


Thanks again and apologies finding it difficult to follow and answer the trail
« Last Edit: August 07, 2024, 11:42:58 pm by Haveringresident »
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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
« Reply #43 on: »
It can't go to the bailiffs until they have registered the debt at TEC, hence you need to be pro-active in checking for the registration. You could also ring TEC every so often quoting the PCN number.
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Should I not let them know by the online form that I've not received it?

Little info on the main PCN page which says £195
Can't find anywhere else with more info.

Called TEC this morning - nothing listed as yet
« Last Edit: August 08, 2024, 08:46:35 am by Haveringresident »
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