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Re: A new beginning
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Thanks for this.

My comment is as follows: you mean "lawyers" or "solicitors"?  My daughter has a Master's Degree in law and she is a solicitor.  So, I ask:  what kind of lawyer and at what level?  The reason I ask is that most people regard "lawyer" as different from "solicitor".  Do you mean "barrister", "solicitor advocate" or whatever?

As an aside cp, we are both well aware of a certain lawyer's flawed advice given to one London Borough re bus lane contraventions!

Finally, I know for a fact that "lawyers" do not study parking law as part of their degree - reverting back to my daughter's degrees, whose theses I edited occasionally!
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Re: A new beginning
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In my experience, “lawyer” is used as a term encompassing all qualified lawyers, e.g. barristers, solicitors and so forth.

Ultimately, who cares?
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Re: A new beginning
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People who are not aware of your definitions and do not have your qualifications as implied  per my post.
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Re: A new beginning
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Quote from: Hippocrates on November 07, 2023, 09:39:18 pm
Finally

I think that there is also a difference of opinion regarding the meaning of the word "finally".
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Re: A new beginning
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Quote from: Hippocrates on November 07, 2023, 11:39:09 pm
People who are not aware of your definitions and do not have your qualifications as implied  per my post.

No, it’s pretty universal. Lawyer is used as a catch all term to describe all shades of legal professionals. But still - who cares?
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Re: A new beginning
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No, it’s pretty universal. Lawyer is used as a catch all term to describe all shades of legal professionals. But still - who cares?

Indeed. My next door neighbour is a "lawyer". She is a solicitor - well qualified and has been practising for years. But she hasn't a clue what a NIP or a s172 request is. She came to me for advice and a view on the likely outcome when her husband received one earlier this year.

"Legal Advice" is not the sole preserve of lawyers (though there is one occasional correspondent on Pepipoo who would love us to believe otherwise!  ;D)
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Re: A new beginning
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Well fortunately I had the foresight of clarifying my position in my signature below, so that should minimise the scope for confusion.
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Re: A new beginning
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Quote from: cp8759 on November 07, 2023, 04:36:27 pm

That being said, we have at least two qualified lawyers in our ranks and I am yet to see an instance where someone has been given advice, either here or on pepipoo, which if given by a lawyer could have been described as negligently given.

Well, there was the Maidstone case last year which was rescued by a certain member on pepipoo.  The same member, indeed, has rescued two other cases contrary to the general advice of the forum - both reviews.

Nobody is infallible.
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Re: A new beginning
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Quote from: Hippocrates on November 08, 2023, 01:10:05 pm
Nobody is infallible.
I'm not sure the JSCs would agree, but none of them have joined our ranks.
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Re: A new beginning
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Quote from: NewJudge on November 08, 2023, 10:06:08 am
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No, it’s pretty universal. Lawyer is used as a catch all term to describe all shades of legal professionals. But still - who cares?

Indeed. My next door neighbour is a "lawyer". She is a solicitor - well qualified and has been practising for years. But she hasn't a clue what a NIP or a s172 request is. She came to me for advice and a view on the likely outcome when her husband received one earlier this year.

"Legal Advice" is not the sole preserve of lawyers (though there is one occasional correspondent on Pepipoo who would love us to believe otherwise!  ;D)

I am about to report a barrister for his incompetence and "curvature of the word" and, indeed, attempts to intimidate a client of mine through the stating of complete and utterly vexatious untruth.  Yet alone the dysfunctional state of his parking services while on his watch.
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My e mail address for councils:

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Re: A new beginning
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I have just found this post via Google after being unable to find the former forums.

Hopefully my lifetime subscription to that community will still be put to good use.

No doubt, I will be posting on these boards requesting guidance again soon.
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Re: A new beginning
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Sill haven't seen another witness statement detailing how the witness loaded and unloaded the wet film cartridge from a Gatso BV 24+ AUS, and exhibiting a still from a Lastec video. Or casually explaining that the discrepancy was due to the fact that he did write or even read his own statement, and merely signed a large pile of pre-written statements.
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Re: A new beginning
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Quote from: andy_foster on February 05, 2025, 02:42:55 pm
Sill haven't seen another witness statement detailing how the witness loaded and unloaded the wet film cartridge from a Gatso BV 24+ AUS, and exhibiting a still from a Lastec video. Or casually explaining that the discrepancy was due to the fact that he did write or even read his own statement, and merely signed a large pile of pre-written statements.
Sounds like the Deegan case.
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