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A new beginning
« on: June 14, 2023, 11:24:35 pm »
To the Admins.

Firstly, congratulations on doing something about the state of repair of the old site by setting up a fresh one with active Admins.

The old site did a lot of things right, but grew organically and some decisions could have perhaps have been improved on if the Admins had the benefit of the hindsight that you now have.

Where the old site ended is perhaps not a bad place to start, but this is an opportunity to improve and refine.

The principle driver of the non-core subforums of the old site was to divert noise away from the core speeding forum. It was a "speeding and other criminal motoring offences" only forum, but people inisisted on asking for advice on other motoring legal matters (similarly to what you may have seen on a certain council parking tickets only facebook group).

My first suggestion would be to remove the apparent invitation to "have an argument" in the Flame Pit. As above the rationale behind the heading was that the Admins just wanted "noise" posted elsewhere than the speeding forum, but having seen the old site's most prolific sad troll use that phrase to justify his persistent trolling re-enforced my original objections.

My second is that if you want to link from a simpler/more memorable URL, ftla.uk is available.

My third and more general suggestion is that this is your sandbox. Take inspiration from what worked on the old site, but take the opportunity to apply the lessons that have been learned.

God speed (and bring back Boris!)

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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2023, 09:18:35 am »
Thank goodness for the new site! I was a bit concerned when the pepipoo site became "unavailable" a couple of days ago without warning. Luckily a quick visit to MSE found the link to here, so, here I am! Was there any copy of all the items on the old site? There was an awful lot of useful information and case history on there. It would be a great shame if all that was lost to the internet. what I was more worried about was that the site had been shut down by "the feds" for the information given. Maybe we were costing the PPCs and councils too much in lost revenue and outing them for what they are?

It's a pity there's not a link that can be put on search engines that will divert enquiries to the old site to here.

Anyway, I'm here, can sometimes give useful advice on bus-taxi-and railway related items.
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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2023, 09:35:29 am »
So far as I know, the site ‘fell over’ rather than being ‘pushed’. There are copies of stuff on the way back machine.
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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2023, 10:08:33 am »
What a relief!
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2023, 12:15:20 pm »
So Pepipoo is no more and definitely not coming back?

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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2023, 01:23:19 pm »
So far as I know, the site ‘fell over’ rather than being ‘pushed’. There are copies of stuff on the way back machine.

Can someone post a link to where the old stuff can be found?
Also, were all old registrations migrated to this new site?

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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2023, 01:24:15 pm »
As far as I can tell, the domain name remains registered and paid for up until 2027.
Maybe a basic page could be re-hosted somewhere on the same URL, with a notice explaining the whereabouts of this site, in order to assist those unable to find it.
WHOIS Pepipoo details

Similarly, the Pepipoo Twitter account still seems to be nominally active, so maybe a message there too in order to help those searching for Pepipoo information on that platform.

Good luck with this site.


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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2023, 02:04:59 pm »
So Pepipoo is no more and definitely not coming back?
Unknown but as the problem has persisted for some time now and I’m not an admin I can’t fix it.

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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2023, 02:06:51 pm »
So far as I know, the site ‘fell over’ rather than being ‘pushed’. There are copies of stuff on the way back machine.

Can someone post a link to where the old stuff can be found?
Also, were all old registrations migrated to this new site?

Try the link in this thread. No, old registrations were not migrated (and I do not know if they can be).

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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2023, 02:11:09 pm »
This site is effectively the "spiritual successor" to PePiPoo. Whilst Southpaw was the moderator of PePiPoo, he was not an Admin, and nobody involved in the running of this site has Admin access to PePiPoo.

Whilst PePiPoo is down (which may or may not be temporary), much of the content can be accessed either through Google's cache or the Wayback Machine.
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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2023, 04:33:48 pm »
If you can find out who does have access to the old pepipoo server, I can arrange for domain transfer to any other server. More than happy to assist in getting this new pepipoo set up. If you want more details of what can be done with better forum software, have a look at PePiPoo.uk and feel free to PM me.
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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2023, 05:37:56 pm »
It would be nice if someone could be able to "own" the pepipoo domain such that a redirect page to here could be set up for people wondering where it's gone.

Good to see, though, that already there are 11 new threads on the Council Tickets forum.

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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2023, 08:58:36 pm »
+1 in thanking those that have set this up!

Also to echo b789 above - more than happy to assist with a tech/migration POV should the old site ever become avaliable/online again. Several things bugged me about that however previous emails sent out never had any luck getting hold of anyone!

I'll go back to providing my usual inpractical on the speeding forum as soon as we get some posts back....
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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2023, 06:54:58 am »
Pepipoo - http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=idx
back up and working this morning.

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Re: A new beginning
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2023, 08:58:46 am »
I've just seen the old site is up and running again this morning. No explanation from admin as to why. Maybe just a glitch that happens on computerised stuff? Not to worry, I'll stay on both sites, it'll give me something else to do during retirement.
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