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Re: Horizon pcn Millenium Retail Park Greenwich
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I refer you to this in the opening line in post #19:

It's only a POPLA appeal. Even if unsuccessful, it is not binding and you do not need to pay. It has no bearing on anything going forwards.

You don't pay. You can safely ignore all debt recovery letters. Debt collectors are powerless to do anything except to try and persuade the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree to pay up out of ignorance and fear.

COme back when you receive a Letter of Claim (loC).
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Horizon pcn Millenium Retail Park Greenwich
« Reply #31 on: »
Hi all

Just received a reminder letter from parking company.

Is there anything of note to be done with this? or just wait for letter of claim

I presume the statutory wording required under Paragraph 9(2)(f) of Schedule 4 to the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, can't be used here as its a reminder and not the original

I look forward to the replies

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Re: Horizon pcn Millenium Retail Park Greenwich
« Reply #32 on: »
Tha advice has not changed. You are waiting for a Letter of Claim (LoC). Ignore everything else.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Re: Horizon pcn Millenium Retail Park Greenwich
« Reply #33 on: »
Hi all

After receiving letters from Debt recovery plus then Empira I now have a letter of claim from Gladstone solicitors.

What is the next step please

Re: Horizon pcn Millenium Retail Park Greenwich
« Reply #34 on: »
Hello again

I would like some advice on the next step anyone?

I have seen some standard replies to send to solicitors just want to be sure I send the right one. I can show the letter of claim if needed.


Thanks in advance

Re: Horizon pcn Millenium Retail Park Greenwich
« Reply #35 on: »
I can show the letter of claim if needed.
Yes please, it's hard to advise on a letter we have not seen.

In the meantime, searching to see how others may have responded to similar letters would be good.

Re: Horizon pcn Millenium Retail Park Greenwich
« Reply #36 on: »
Thank you for reply

I attach the LOC

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This is the template reply
is this the correct one to send for the first direct contact to their website as stated in letter.

"Dear Sirs,

Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of evidence your client places reliance upon and thus is in complete contravention of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.

As a firm of supposed solicitors, one would expect you to be capable of crafting a letter that aligns with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions do not exist for decoration—they exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution. You might wish to reacquaint yourselves with them.

The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols (Part 3), stipulate that prior to proceedings, parties should have exchanged sufficient information to understand each other’s position. Part 6 helpfully clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the issues in dispute.

Your template letter mentions a “contract”, yet fails to provide one. This would appear to undermine the only foundation upon which your client’s claim allegedly rests. It’s difficult to engage in meaningful pre-litigation dialogue when your side declines to furnish the very document it purports to enforce.

I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with the requirements of para 3.1 (a) of the Pre-Action Protocol, I shall then seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required by the Protocol. Thus, I require your client to comply with its obligations by sending me the following information/documents:

1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) that confirms any PoFA 2012 liability
2. A copy of the contract (or contracts) you allege exists between your client and the driver, in the form of an actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date, not a generic stock image
3. The exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract(s) which is (are) relied upon that you allege to have been breached
4. The written agreement between your client and the landowner, establishing authority to enforce
5. A breakdown of the charges claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” fee includes VAT

I am clearly entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. I also need it in order to comply with my own obligations under paragraph 6(b).

If your client does not provide me with this information then I put you on notice that I will be relying on the cases of Webb Resolutions Ltd v Waller Needham & Green [2012] EWHC 3529 (Ch), Daejan Investments Limited v The Park West Club Limited (Part 20) Buxton Associates [2003] EWHC 2872, Charles Church Developments Ltd v Stent Foundations Limited & Peter Dann Limited [2007] EWHC 855 in asking the court to impose sanctions on your client and to order a stay of the proceedings, pursuant to paragraphs 13, 15(b) and (c) and 16 of the Practice Direction, as referred to in paragraph 7.2 of the Protocol.

Until your client has complied with its obligations and provided this information, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim and to consider my position in relation to it, and it is entirely premature (and a waste of costs and court time) for your client to issue proceedings. Should your client do so, then I will seek an immediate stay pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order that this information is provided.

Yours faithfully,"



Thanks

Re: Horizon pcn Millenium Retail Park Greenwich
« Reply #37 on: »
Hi all

Is there anything I need to add to this reply for the letter of claim

Is b789 still active on this site?

Re: Horizon pcn Millenium Retail Park Greenwich
« Reply #38 on: »
ill bump this one more time in the hope of a reply
Cheers

Re: Horizon pcn Millenium Retail Park Greenwich
« Reply #39 on: »
Your response should comply with the practice directions at
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the defendant responding within a reasonable time – 14 days in a straight forward case and no more than 3 months in a very complex one. The reply should include confirmation as to whether the claim is accepted and, if it is not accepted, the reasons why, together with an explanation as to which facts and parts of the claim are disputed and
If you understand and agree with the template reply you have posted, that’s fine.
Otherwise modify it to match your understanding and the practice directions above.

You’re documenting your understanding and engaging with the process by doing so.
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