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Thatsa what I thunked. Thx.
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Can you show us the letter please.

I now have the letter to hand. It's dated 9th Oct., and comes with a 14 day deadline, so contents rendered academic in any event.

The defendant has yet to grasp the concept of legal deadlines, although I have done my best to drum it into her. 
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Quote from: Eryobotrya on November 07, 2024, 04:28:02 pm
I now have the letter to hand. It's dated 9th Oct., and comes with a 14 day deadline, so contents rendered academic in any event.
Perhaps, although it may still be helpful to see it. Even if it doesn't help with this case, it may be helpful to others in future.
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I'll post up, along with a subsequent letter that is much more interesting. Just as soon as I work out how to download a driver for my Epson printer/scanner on my recently refurbished Lenovo museum piece.
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Hopefully, this link will work:

https://imgur.com/a/SxyA3zC

Either they are bluffing/indulging in some crude intimidation, or they are spoiling for a fight. I'm prepared to give them one.

BTW, IMGUR would not accept PDF format, so I had to upload as JPEG.
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Use DropBox to host PDFs.

Nothing unexpected in those letters. Wait for your N180 DQ, which you can download now and fill in online.

They will discontinue before they have to pay the trial fee.

Any PPC using DCB Legal to issue their claims is not too worried about how much it costs to file a claim. The profits from the vast majority that pay up put of ignorance of the litigation process or that fail to properly respond to a claim and get a CCJ by default, by far outweighs the cost of trying it on by filling a claim.

Filing a claim is, in effect, a 'loss leader' for them. Only a tiny fraction of victims come here or over on MSE.
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Wait for your N180 DQ, which you can download now and fill in online.

They've already filed theirs. They've ticked Y to mediation, but I genuinely see zero grounds for any prospect of compromise, since I have no intention of paying a single penny of their fraudulent claim.

Would it prejudice our defence if I ticked N to mediation? 
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Mediation is now mandatory. You simply turn up (by phone), offer nothing, and it's all over very quickly.
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Gotcha, though I find it odd that we are given a choice if it's mandatory.
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They've probably used an old version of the form - the new one doesn't contain the option: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/66a8b019ce1fd0da7b592f43/N180_0724.pdf
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It has been mandatory to "attend" a mediation call for all claims issued after 22nd May 2024. Note that it is only mandatory to attend the call.

Mediation is not part of the judicial process and no judges or lawyers are involved. Far too many people think that if the don't agree to settle that it would go against them at trial. Absolutely nothing of the sort. It has no bearing on any future proceedings.

You offer £0 and it is over in minutes and you have compiled with the requirement to "attend" the call. Should the mediator try to persuade you that you're not likely to win, you should immediately ask them what legal qualification do they have that permits them to make that determination. Also, a complaint about their behaviour in even suggesting anything of the sort should be made.
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Understood.

Do I need to respond to either or both of those letters from DCBL, even though their d/lines are now past?

I don't s'pose I'm allowed to politely request that they advise their client to go boil their collective fracking head, right?   
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You don't need to respond to either of those letters. They will probably, in due course, try to get in touch to offer a settlement. Ignore that.

They will eventually discontinue.
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Uh oh. I've just come across their LBA dated 7th Feb. I honestly don't remember if I answered it. I think I was dealing with another claim at the time from PPL-PRS Ltd, which we eventually won. Since I may be in breach of PAP para. 4, does that mean we're sunk without trace?

PS: Is it possible I answered it online, and therefore have no record of it? Other than an automated acknowledgment perhaps?
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Not responding to an LBA (Letter Before Action?) or LoC does not matter. there is no obligation to respond.

This will go through the normal process and will be discontinued. I'm prepared to bet on it.
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