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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2024, 11:50:24 am »
BTW, I found some scathing reviews of this PPC on Tripadvisor. They document and confirm the underhand tactics they employ to extract punitive damages from their victims. Would it be worthwhile attaching a few of those reviews to my defence? Or at a later stage perhaps - if it goes that far?
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2024, 12:13:44 pm »
Quote from: Eryobotrya on September 30, 2024, 11:50:24 am
I found some scathing reviews of this PPC on Tripadvisor. They document and confirm the underhand tactics they employ to extract punitive damages from their victims. Would it be worthwhile attaching a few of those reviews to my defence? Or at a later stage perhaps - if it goes that far?
Probably not - bear in mind that the only time people engage with these companies is when they have been issued with a demand for money. That's unlikely to lead to positive customer experiences.

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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2024, 12:16:26 pm »
I think you're overthinking this. The first point is to get the claim struck out for failure to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a). The second request is for further PoC for failure to fully comply with the rest of CPR 16.4. The second request (order) asks that should the claimant fail to fully comply with all the points in the order, that the claim be struck out.

If you're not comfortable with a defence and draft order, you are free to compile your own. To date, this defence and draft order have not failed to get the claim discontinued or struck out.

Your choice.
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2024, 12:20:49 pm »
"Scathing reviews" are not a defence. It's a bit like saying to the policeman who has pulled you over for speeding that it's not fair because other drivers were going faster than me.

Should this ever escalate to the point of a hearing, you can of course refer to those reviews in your WS. However, I fear you are either going to ignore my advice and edit or provide your own authored defence or you are relying on advice from elsewhere.

I have provided advice and templates that are known to work. Use them or lose them.
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2024, 12:31:18 pm »
No, I'm not getting advice elsewhere, and the second strike out request now makes sense. Until now, it was not made clear to me that it was contingent on the claimant's failure to comply with the judge's orders. I will be filing YOUR defence today.

I'm hoping it will ruin the rest of their week.

Watch this space for further developments.
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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2024, 12:34:08 pm »
My money is on a discontinuation. Anyone care to offer odds on a different outcome?
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2024, 12:40:11 pm »
You mean the claimant will drop their claim?
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2024, 12:50:10 pm »
Quote from: Eryobotrya on September 30, 2024, 12:40:11 pm
You mean the claimant will drop their claim?
Usually, yes.

If the claimant is using DCB Legal, a discontinuation is very likely based on previous form. They'll string it out as long as they can in the meantime.
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2024, 01:26:50 pm »
You mean the PPC doesn't care about increasing their costs? Really?
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2024, 01:35:26 pm »
In 2023 Civil Enforcement issued 33,220 court claims, that's 91 a day. Last financial year, they made roughly 49,000 requests per month to the DVLA for vehicle keeper details. This process is a machine, with Civil Enforcement caring very little about the details of an individual case. A minority of cases costing them money matters little to them if the majority simply pay up.
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2024, 06:49:13 pm »
Defence and supporting docs now filed, and auto response received. They promise to reply within 10 days.

Ball now in Claimant's court - pun intended. Hopefully, we won't be hearing from them again.
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