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Getawayred24

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Good evening


Location of contravention o/s 63-77 Brompton Road sw3 - CAMERA PCN TICKET ISSUED

Stage: appeal rejected - next stage NOTICE OF APPEAL TRAFFIC ADJUDICATOR


Iíve received a letter from TFL stating they are not cancelling my PCN, I originally appealed because I thought the sign was a disabled and loading signage has I have a disabled badge. So I stopped due to a medical reason.


I appealed and stated originally that I was going to the toilet because I have a weak bladder, they denied my medical grounds. However I did make a purchase on that day which was a bit heavy for me to carry. Iím only including this because it might be loading .


At current I do not know what to say in the respond to the tribunals form they have sent back to me.

But I was hoping to say something along the lines of:

My late appeal is a result of my lack of assistance in writing my appeal. I struggle with learning and dyslexia. It makes it a little more difficult for me to communicate and complete documents and applications by myself . I am sorry for the delay in getting this email of appeal across sooner.

Today, I'm asking that you kindly reconsider or assist me in comprehending why I was assigned the PCN. I assumed that because I had a disability badge, I could load and stop between the hours of 10 a.m. and 4 p.m. I have sent a request for video footage of the contravention that occurred through the online PCN portal on the TFL WEBSITE but I have not received a response from them yet . I have already sent another request today I hope they will get back to me in the mean time.

I would like to appeal the case based on the two reasons


Medical grounds I have anxiety, panic attacks, CHRONIC BACK PAIN, ADHD, and personality disorder. In addition, my BLADDER is feeble.

I was experiencing a manic episode on the day of the infraction because. Looking at the sign, I honestly thought it said "disabled badge 10-4am"; or else, I wouldn't have stopped there . I got out of the car to give myself some time to cool off before I endangered other drivers. It is not safe for users to have panic episodes. It was always my understanding that I should come down and show the badge on my dashboard if I felt frightened or ill. I have contacted dwp for a medical letter to attach to my appeal.





Any advice would be greatly appreciated I need to send the form back 19th march



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Re: Notice of appeal TfL red route - need to appeal today
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2024, 09:38:37 pm »
Please read this and update your post accordingly : -
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

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To my surprise it was a loading only bay.
Did you go and actually look at the sign for the bay ?
This is the bay in 2021
https://maps.app.goo.gl/GC4sXbbm8cmgupy69
GSV shows the same sign in 2022, but there is building work going on.

So, having had your representations rejected, what is your basis for taking them to London Tribunals ?





Getawayred24

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Re: Notice of appeal TfL red route - need to appeal today
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2024, 09:51:27 pm »
I did not check the signage I just saw the blue sign and automatically thought I could park.

« Last Edit: March 18, 2024, 10:49:45 pm by Getawayred24 »

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Re: Notice of appeal TfL red route - need to appeal today
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2024, 10:07:09 pm »
The other user was able to assist me without this is there anyway you can assist me privately ?

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Re: Notice of appeal TfL red route - need to appeal today
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2024, 10:21:35 pm »
The other user was able to assist me without this is there anyway you can assist me privately ?
What is it you are having trouble with?
You first need to have images of notices in your computer or phone.

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Most important for now is that we need to see the Notice of Rejection --- all of it.

What 'other use' are you referring to?

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Would you be able to tell me if the updated information has been made clear ?

I believe there is 4 attached images including the link to the location is that correct ?

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Would you be able to tell me if the updated information has been made clear ?

I believe there is 4 attached images including the link to the location is that correct ?
It's difficult to view because you haven't followed the instructions.

But I can see what I initially needed and you have until Sunday for London Tribunals to receive an appeal.

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« Last Edit: March 30, 2024, 09:46:31 pm by cp8759 »

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But I can see what I initially needed and you have until Sunday for London Tribunals to receive an appeal.
You may as well submit an appeal because the only other choice is to pay.

You don't need to go into any detail. You can just say 'I rely on my formal representations'.

Opt for a personal hearing (which can then be changed to a telephone hearing).

Then you will have a few weeks for people to comment on your case.

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But I can see what I initially needed and you have until Sunday for London Tribunals to receive an appeal.
You may as well submit an appeal because the only other choice is to pay.

You don't need to go into any detail. You can just say 'I rely on my formal representations'.

Opt for a personal hearing (which can then be changed to a telephone hearing).

Then you will have a few weeks for people to comment on your case.
I note you haven't since logged in to the forum? Maybe you'be read what I said anyway?

If you do not either pay or submit an appeal by post TODAY you will receive another Charge Certificate, increasing the penalty and with no further choices.
To submit your appeal you only need a free 'Certificate of Posting' from your local Post Office, nothing more.

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Okay thank you for your help

I will get this done today

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To submit your appeal you only need a free 'Certificate of Posting' from your local Post Office, nothing more.[/b]
For future reference, nobody should ever post anything to the tribunal PO Box: there is no guarantee documents will be received in time or at all. The paper appeal form for any TFL appeal can be scanned and emailed to queries@londontribunals.org.uk
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor nor a barrister.

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@Getawayred24 I'm afraid to say you've not exactly applied a winning strategy to this case, I think there are grounds that might succeed but it's hard to confirm that as you've not even provided us with the notice of rejection in full.

There are a few obvious grounds worth exploring such as:

1) Can TFL prove it's a civil enforcement area,
2) Can TFL prove it is the highway authority for this road
3) Can TFL exhibit a made traffic order,
4) Is the notice of rejection ambiguous
5) Even if there is a traffic order, does it correctly match the bay markings.

This doesn't look like a case suited to a DIY appeal so I'm going to send you a PM with what might be a better option.
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor nor a barrister.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order