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Re: Single yellow line PCN to my lease car -Advice needed!!
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@RW468 please post up the notice to owner and a draft of your response. There's not much point in coming here for advice if you're going to go off and do your own thing. I also suggest when you next respond you tick the "Notify me of replies" box under "Attachments and other options".

I'd also like to check the traffic order, but I can't as you've given us absolutely nothing to work with.
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Re: Single yellow line PCN to my lease car -Advice needed!!
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Hi Everyone - thank you for the replies. Sorry for the slow update. So I had a letter (attached) basically saying I still have to pay as contravention code 01 applies saying that light goods vehicles are allowed to stay for 2 minutes. Incidentally they state the officer saw my vehicle from 17.23-17.35 and no unloading or loading - although the photos show my car door open. They say th notes say he had a conversation with me stating he had been there for 3 minutes prior to issue of PCN -so in there view that takes it to a total of 5 minutes.

There apparently was a no waiting restriction sign 1 meter away - is that the same as a no loading sign?!

I'm not sure whether to contest further. I thought there wasn't a sign- does the no waiting sign mean no loading too.

They say 'where your vehicle is parking it is permitted to stop for as long as is reasonably necessary for the purpose or picking or dropping passenger however you are not allowed to leave your vehicle there.

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They say 'where your vehicle is parking it is permitted to stop for as long as is reasonably necessary for the purpose or picking or dropping passenger however you are not allowed to leave your vehicle there.
This is total tosh. There is no legal requirement for a driver to remain with the vehicle when carrying out boarding/alighting activities. You were engaged in what is called "assisted boarding", which involves collecting a vulnerable person from a safe place and escorting them to the car to board. The same applies with alighting.

So if it were me, I'd be taking them to adjudication.  However, please do as CP8759 asks, and post the documents.
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thanks so much - I have posted documents to my latest post - can you see them?
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Quote from: RW468 on April 30, 2024, 02:47:06 pm
thanks so much - I have posted documents to my latest post - can you see them?
Yes, but cp8759 wanted to see the Notice to Owner. 

Clearly their letter was in response to reps against that, and they haven't re-offered the discount, so it is now a total no-brainer to take them to adjudication because the penalty does not increase, and there are no additional costs.
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ok thanks - i don't seem to have that at the moment (sorry!) I will just submit reponse saying I was assisting a minor to board etc  - no brainer as you say as no cost to do it. thanks
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How old was the child and dothey have any specific needs for assistance.

It feeds into necessity. eg a 5 year old and a 15 year old may be considered diffirently. Policy may also be relevant as to what the school demand.

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she is 7
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Quote from: RW468 on April 30, 2024, 06:16:41 pm
ok thanks - i don't seem to have that at the moment (sorry!) I will just submit reponse saying I was assisting a minor to board etc  - no brainer as you say as no cost to do it. thanks
Well let's see a draft before you submit it please.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
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