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Re: x2 PCN from G24 Ltd. Unauthorized parking
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hello all,
just received letter from HM tribunals relating to these tickets and CCJ.

Can someone kindly advise on the next steps.

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Re: x2 PCN from G24 Ltd. Unauthorized parking
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Obscure the password.

As it says, you have to file a defence or Acknowledgement of Service by 18 May.
If the latter, you have until 1 June to file a defence.

Your defence is that you, as the registered keeper, can not be liable because G24 issued the original PCN too late to transfer liability to you from the unknown driver, under the provisions of PoFA 2012.

Obviously you need to elaborate on that a bit, by quoting the appropriate legislation and the key dates which demonstrate lack of compliance.

Don’t forget that G24 said
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The notice to keeper has been issued within the relevant time frames outside of the Protection of Freedoms Act.

Search the forum for many, many documented similar cases, and you will see that DCB Legal usually discontinue defended cases, but you have to keep up with the paperwork until they do, including filing a defence.
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Re: x2 PCN from G24 Ltd. Unauthorized parking
« Reply #17 on: »
Obscure the password.


Thank you. Obscured the pw.
Terminologies are really baffling tbh. Would you recommending following similar steps from this thread?
https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/claim-form-received-dcb-legal-ltd-feltham-please-help!/

Re: x2 PCN from G24 Ltd. Unauthorized parking
« Reply #18 on: »
Obscure the password.

As it says, you have to file a defence or Acknowledgement of Service by 18 May.
If the latter, you have until 1 June to file a defence.

Your defence is that you, as the registered keeper, can not be liable because G24 issued the original PCN too late to transfer liability to you from the unknown driver, under the provisions of PoFA 2012.

Obviously you need to elaborate on that a bit, by quoting the appropriate legislation and the key dates which demonstrate lack of compliance.

Don’t forget that G24 said
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The notice to keeper has been issued within the relevant time frames outside of the Protection of Freedoms Act.

Search the forum for many, many documented similar cases, and you will see that DCB Legal usually discontinue defended cases, but you have to keep up with the paperwork until they do, including filing a defence.

The notice to keeper has been issued within the relevant time frames outside of the Protection of Freedoms Act.

what does that mean from keepers point of view

Re: x2 PCN from G24 Ltd. Unauthorized parking
« Reply #19 on: »
Presumably it means that the NtK was issued within 6 years of the event, which is the time limit for claims under contract law. So what? It’s just stupid waffle trying to make it look as if they’re right (and you’re wrong).

But the key point is that G24 admit in writing that PoFA 2012 isn’t being used. So if the driver isn’t identified, the registered keeper isn’t liable.

They may continue with rubbish about pursuing the keeper under the “reasonable probability” that the keeper was the driver, but they can pursue all they like, there is no legal means of transferring liability.

So you just continue in this vein and follow the process to a court claim etc. which you will have read up on by now by searching the forum.

If you post your proposed defence here you will get helpful comments I’m sure.
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Re: x2 PCN from G24 Ltd. Unauthorized parking
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Thank you. I found a similar case and used that to reply to them. Received attached this morning.

Having reviewed the content of your defence, we write to inform you that our client intends to proceed with the claim.

In due course, the Court will direct both parties to each file a directions questionnaire. In preparation for that, please find attached a copy of the Claimant's, which we confirm has been filed with the Court.

Without Prejudice to the above, in order to assist the Court in achieving its overriding objective, our client may be prepared to settle this case - in the event you wish to discuss settlement, please call us on 0203 434 0433 within 7 days and make immediate reference to this correspondence.

If you have provided an email address within your Defence, we intend to use it for service of documents (usually in PDF format) hereon in pursuant to PD 6A (4.1)(2)(c). Please advise whether there are any limitations to this (for example, the format in which documents are to be sent and the maximum size of attachments that may be received). Unless you advise otherwise, we will assume not

No option to attach pdf lol. Will upload screenshots via laptop shortly


Re: x2 PCN from G24 Ltd. Unauthorized parking
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Hello all. Received form N180 from courts today.
Can someone please advise next steps.
Thank you

Re: x2 PCN from G24 Ltd. Unauthorized parking
« Reply #23 on: »
Can you post up the defence which you submitted for continuity purposes?

Re: x2 PCN from G24 Ltd. Unauthorized parking
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Search the forum for N180 and you will find
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Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and (email of solicitor) and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
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