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Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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Questions I have.

1) Now this has been given a court date. Does this mean the judge has decided to let it proceed and not strike it out? Or could this still happen.

2) Should I just wait and see if the court fee is paid before doing anything else. With the claimant now having to pay this fee and commit a person to the trial is there a chance they back down? 🤞

3) Should I come back here if they pay the trial fee for help with my defence?

1. No, this does not mean that that it will proceed to trial. It is still likely to be discontinued just before the trial fee has to be paid.

2. Yes, absolutely. It is at the point where the trial fee has to be paid that most of these cases are discontinued.

3. If the trial fee is paid, then that is a sign that they intend to go to trial. Your defence has already been submitted. You would have to prepare a Witness Statement (WS). However, you do not need to do anything until you've see the claimants WS, even if that means you have to submit yours a day or so after the deadline.

I suggest you call the court on 23rd August to see whether the trial fee has been paid. If it hasn't, then the claim is struck out. If it has, then you wait to receive a copy of the claimants WS.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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Trial fee has been paid.

Hi All. I rang the court earlier today and the trial fee has been paid. So looks like this is going the distance.

Questions I have going forward.

1) It has been mentioned a few times on here that it would be rare for this to ever get to court. Are you surprised this is going to court now? Any ideas why they are taking it this far?

2) Is the opportunity for it to be thrown out now passed (unless moorside decide to pull it themselves?)

3) When defended myself in court, can I only mention things that I previously put in my defence that was made by b789 for me. Or can I add other details specifically about my case.

4) In what format will I receive the Claimant witness statement ( post or email).  if I wait to see theirs before submitting mine and miss the deadline are there any repercussions or is it expected that I wait for theirs first?

Finally I would appreciate any further guidance you have. This is uncharted territory for me.

Thanks
Pauly




« Last Edit: August 22, 2025, 05:42:00 pm by Pauly436 »

Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
« Reply #32 on: »
The deadline to file Witness Statements (WS) and evidence is 14 days before the hearing. Do not file your WS until you have seen the claimant’s WS. Moorside’s WS will almost certainly be hearsay from an employee and can be given little weight.

Wait to review what they actually rely on — especially for an alleged “observed leaving site” breach. Similar claims have previously drawn judicial criticism; one such matter became known as the “toothbrush” case after the judge warned the representative that bringing another claim of that kind could lead to contempt consequences.

Accordingly, hold back your WS until theirs is served. Even if that means filing yours a day or so late, it is important to address and rebut exactly what they put forward.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
« Reply #33 on: »
Do keep a keen eye on any correspondence, as there's a fair chance that the claimant will leave it relatively close to the deadline to file their WS, too.

Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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Is it common practice to start building my WS before seeing theirs and then tweeking? If I wait for theirs before putting anything together, one days notice to turn around my WS with no experience is daunting.

Although I have noticed the responses to help come extremely quickly here.

Thanks
Pauly

Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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Yes, of course you can start drafting your WS. Always be prepared. However, I really can't see this going all the way to a hearing. If it actually does, the you will be well prepared.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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Witness statements are due 14 days before the trial which is tomorrow (Friday 4/9/25). The WS from the claimant has still not arrived. Would you expect it via post or email?

All other correspondence has been by post but they have my email from the N180.

Because the 14 days lands on a Friday but I was advised to wait and read theirs before submitting mine. Would submitting mine on Monday be pushing it? I assume the court wouldn't process it on a weekend.

Thanks
Pauly

Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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As you only came to us after you had received the claim, did you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC) from Moorside and if so, did you respond, and if so, what did you respond with? Did you request the evidence their client relied on? Did you out them to strict proof of anything?

They will submit their WS bundle by email if they have not forgotten about it. You are dealing with a firm of incompetents and there is a chance that by submitting your WS you will trigger a panic response from Moorside. I have tried to head that off in the WS.

I still don’t think that they will dare try and present this case in court. However, just in case I’m wrong, I have put together a WS you can use.

If you have not received anything by 4pm today, I have prepared the body of your WS that you can submit at 4pm today by email. You will need to attach the two transcripts as evidence to the WS and they are referenced in it:

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1. I am the Defendant and a litigant in person. This statement is confined to the Claimant’s defective Particulars of Claim and to their failure to serve any witness statement or exhibits by the court’s deadline of Friday 5 September 2025.

2. As at today’s date, the Claimant has served nothing beyond their vague, template Particulars of Claim. There is therefore nothing for me to answer other than that bare pleading.

3. I am filing after the evidence deadline because I reasonably awaited the Claimant’s witness statement and bundle so that I could respond to the case they chose to advance. None has been served. This filing simply records the position created by their default and causes no prejudice.

4. The Particulars of Claim do not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a). They do not set out a concise statement of the facts relied upon and they disclose no recognisable cause of action that I can meet.

5. No contract or exact wording of any term is set out or attached as required by Practice Direction 16 paragraph 7.5.

6. The Particulars do not say whether I am pursued as driver or as registered keeper. Those are different legal bases and the Claimant should plead one clear case.

7. No material facts are pleaded: not what was done, where, when, or for how long; no signage or contractual nexus is identified; no legal basis is explained. I am left guessing and that is prejudicial.

8. The amount claimed is not properly particularised. There is no breakdown between any principal sum and any add-ons, and no legal basis is given for additional sums or interest.

9. For online claims, Practice Direction 7C paragraph 5.2(2) allows a claimant to serve separate, detailed Particulars within 14 days if space is limited. The Claimant chose not to do so. The continuing lack of particulars is therefore a choice.

10. The Claimant’s solicitors are officers of the court and are under a positive duty by CPR 1.3 to help the court further the overriding objective. It is a dereliction of that duty to issue and persist with Particulars that do not meet CPR 16.4(1)(a), and then to ignore the court’s directions by missing the 5 September 2025 evidence deadline.

11. Their default is serious and significant. As a represented party they should be held to a strict standard of compliance. This is not a minor technicality but conduct that wastes court time and obstructs the just, expeditious and proportionate resolution of the case.

12. Any suggestion that pre-action correspondence somehow cures the defective pleading is denied. The issues are defined by the statements of case. A witness statement is for evidence; it is not a vehicle to plead a new case after the deadline or to retrofit particulars that were never pleaded.

13. If the Claimant now seeks to serve a late witness statement, I oppose relief from sanctions. There is a serious and significant breach, no good reason has been offered, and all the circumstances—especially the prejudice to a litigant in person and the Claimant’s represented status—favour refusal. The court should not permit an ambush after seeing my position.

14. The Claimant missed the 4pm, Friday 5 September 2025 evidence deadline. Under CPR 32.10 they may not rely on any witness statement served late without permission. If relief from sanctions is sought, I oppose it: the breach is serious and significant; there is no good reason; and all the circumstances—including their represented status, the prejudice to a litigant in person, the attempted ambush after seeing my statement, and wasted court time—favour refusal (*Denton*; CPR 3.9). As officers of the court (CPR 1.3) their serial non-compliance warrants sanction, not indulgence.

15. If, contrary to that, any late material is admitted, it should be confined strictly to matters already pleaded; any new allegations, new contractual terms or new causes of action should be excluded; and I should have a fair opportunity to respond, including an adjournment with my costs thrown away.

16. Any late statement from a Moorside employee will be hearsay from someone with no first-hand knowledge. I ask the court to give such material little or no weight.

17. I attach and rely upon Civil Enforcement Ltd v Chan (2023) and Car Park Management Services v Akande (2024) (Exhibits AUTH1 and AUTH2). These persuasive appellate authorities struck out near-identical parking templates for failure to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) and confirm that a claimant must properly plead its case rather than attempting to retrofit it later.

18. In light of the above, I invite the court to strike out the claim under CPR 3.4(2)(a) because the statement of case discloses no reasonable grounds for bringing the claim. I further invite the court to sanction the Claimant’s solicitors for their dereliction of duty as officers of the court and for their abuse of process in missing the court’s deadline.

19. In the alternative, I ask the court to dismiss the claim, refuse any late attempt to expand or amend it, and consider costs for unreasonable conduct under CPR 27.14(2)(g).

As this will be your “bundle” you will need to put it all together as a single PDF file, correctly paginated. The WS will need the court header (same as for the defence but titled “Witness Statement”) and a Statement of Truth (again, same as in the defence but with “witness statement” instead of “defence”).

As this is a small claims track, the judge on the day is not going to have read anything and will be skim reading. I suggest you also add the following as part of your bundle...

A single cover page, big font, double spaced:

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1. Claimant (represented) missed 4pm Friday 5 Sept 2025 for WS/exhibits.

2. CPR 32.10: no reliance on a late WS without permission.

3. Denton: serious/significant; no good reason; all the circumstances (ambush after seeing mine; I’m LiP; they’re solicitors/ officers of court under CPR 1.3).

4. Prejudice: I lose any chance to deal with new facts/terms; asymmetric forensic disadvantage; wastes court time.

5. Pleaded case still defective (CPR 16.4(1)(a) / PD16 7.5; PD7C 5.2(2) ignored).

6. Authorities: CEL v Chan (2023), CPMS v Akande (2024): near-identical templates struck out.

Order sought: exclude late WS; strike out under CPR 3.4(2)(a).
If admitted: (i) limit to pleaded issues only; (ii) no new terms/causes; (iii) adjourn or permit a short reply WS within 7 days; (iv) costs thrown away.

After the WS, include the transcripts as referenced and also the draft order that was submitted with the defence.

If Moorside try and ambush you with a late WS submitted after yours, let us know and I can give you a Supplemental WS that you can then submit which destroys their failures and requests appropriate sanctions.

Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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Thank you for the sheer amount of advice and work you have put in for me b789.

I did receive a LoC, and in my naivety before I came to the site, I thought this was just another bullying letter like the others they send out demanding money.

Attached here
https://ibb.co/gMCkKK8k
https://ibb.co/1YCHt5hk
https://ibb.co/RkXT5Sby

I did not respond. Error
I didn't ask them to prove anything. I asked them for a SAR to see everything they had.

Would you recommend I add any specifics about the parking incident in the WS? No signs on the entrance to the car park? only being in the car park for 1 minute and 22 seconds? or does that just add more confusion. You have clearly provided me so many points already. Having read other threads on this site it seems that this wont get past the first bullet point before the judge throws it out.

I will prepare this WS into a PDF now like you described, ready to send at 4pm. If I hear from Moorside before then I will let you know immediately.

Thanks
Pauly
« Last Edit: September 05, 2025, 07:50:55 am by Pauly436 »

Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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You can only respond to the PoC. The PoC do not state a cause of action. You have to assume that the recipient of a claim has no knowledge of what it is about. It is up to the claimant to provide enough detail for the defendant to understand the claim.

As with all claims issued by the utter incompetents at Moorside Legal, they never comply with CPR 16.4(1)1(a) which means that they do not even include a concise cause of action.

All they have pleaded is that you, either as driver or Keeper are in breach of contract. They have not even said what the contractual terms you have allegedly breached. The court will have no idea that they are alleging that the breach is a term that can be breached. How can the court know that they are alleging that the term of contract breached is someone left the site? How exactly is that term written? Does it apply to the driver only? Does it apply to anyone in the vehicle? How. Is the ‘site’ boundary defined’? How do they intend to hold you liable as the Keeper?

Without stating the cause of action, it could be because no blue cars are allowed to park on a Wednesday between 0945 and 1127. Who knows? I could go on but you get the idea.

So, DO NOT add anything about the unknown cause of action.

Just remember, do not submit that until after 4pm.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2025, 07:58:58 am by b789 »
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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Your comments here have really helped me understand what I’m actually fighting.

Unsurprisingly 4pm has passed with no WS from moorside so I shall submit my WS now as you described.

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Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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I would also double check with the court that they actually paid the trial fee. I know you said they did but I would get another confirmation of that.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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I rang them earlier to confirm the court email address and double checked that as well. Trial fee was paid.

Seems mad they would pay the trial fee but not submit a WS but nothing they do seems to make sense.

Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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For anyone that might read this in the future I wanted to conclude this case and pass on my thanks to everyone who guided me, especially the wonderful @b789 who provided unbelievable support and documents.

Moorside Legal never bother to submit a witness statement. Notice of Discontinuance Was sent to me by email 24hours and 15 minutes before the court hearing. I assume they waited until just before the 24 hour mark otherwise they would have had to turn up. (I double checked with the courts this had been received for peace of mind)

To anyone in a similar situation. Don’t lose hope. Follow the guidance given to you by members here and you will win. 🏆

Slightly disappointed I can’t see the judge slap their wrist for not submitting a W/S.

How do they live with themselves taking up so much of the courts time knowing full well they will back out?

Do any solicitors ever get reprimanded for this?

Thanks a million
Pauly
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Re: Small claim court letter received. Observed leaving site UKCPS Sheff
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@Pauly436, you can go one better...

You can still ask the court to award you costs, even though the claim was discontinued before the hearing. Normally, in the small claims track each side pays their own costs, but there is an exception in the rules. Rule 27.14(2)(g) says that if a party behaves unreasonably, the court can order them to pay the other side’s costs.

Here the claimant issued a defective claim that never complied with CPR 16.4 because it did not properly set out a cause of action. They then failed to serve any witness evidence in line with the court’s directions, even though they paid the hearing fee and kept the case going until just twenty-four hours before the hearing. At that point they filed a notice of discontinuance. That sequence of events meant you had to spend time and effort dealing with the claim—researching the rules, preparing a defence, responding to the court, and chasing to find out what was happening—only for the claimant to abandon the case at the last possible moment.

That is conduct which has no reasonable explanation, and case law says that is what counts as “unreasonable”. Because of that, you can now ask the court to order the claimant to pay you for the time you have wasted. As a litigant in person you can claim at the guideline rate of £19 an hour for the hours you have genuinely spent dealing with the case, together with modest expenses like printing and postage. If the court insists that you make a formal application, the application fee can also be claimed back.

So although there was no hearing and no travel or loss of work to claim, you are entitled to ask for your wasted time and effort to be compensated, because the claimant pursued a defective case and only dropped it on the eve of trial.

You can write a short, formal email to the court (FAO: Court Manager/Listing, quoting the claim number and parties) asking that, notwithstanding the N279, the file be placed before a judge for a paper determination of the defendant’s costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g). Attach a brief statement explaining the late discontinuance, the defective pleadings and lack of witness evidence, and an itemised litigant-in-person costs schedule (hours at £19/hour plus modest disbursements). Copy Moorside Legal and say you have done so.

Courts often will either deal with that on the papers or reply directing you to issue an N244. There is no extra fee if the judge considers it on the papers; the N244 route carries a fee, which you should then ask to be added to any costs order. Act promptly after the N279 so the file is still “live” administratively. If the judge declines to act of their own initiative (CPR 3.3), they will usually tell you to make a formal application—at which point you file the N244 in the same terms.

You can send the following to the court manager and make sure you CC in Moorside Legal:

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Subject: Claim [Claim Number] – Request for Costs Assessment Following Discontinuance

Dear Court Manager,

I write in respect of claim [Claimant] v [Defendant], claim number [xxxx]. The Claimant filed a Notice of Discontinuance (N279) on [date], approximately 24 hours before the listed hearing on [hearing date].

Throughout the proceedings the Claimant maintained particulars of claim that did not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) and failed to serve any witness statement in accordance with the court’s directions. The Defendant was therefore denied a fair opportunity to respond to a properly pleaded case. The Claimant nevertheless paid the trial fee and allowed the matter to proceed to the eve of the hearing before discontinuing.

This conduct has put the Defendant to considerable time and expense in researching the law, preparing the defence, responding to the defective pleadings, and chasing the court for updates. It is respectfully submitted that this amounts to unreasonable behaviour within the meaning of CPR 27.14(2)(g) and the authorities, in particular Dammermann v Lanyon Bowdler [2017] EWCA Civ 269.

The Defendant therefore invites the court to place the file before a judge for a summary determination of costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g). An itemised schedule of time and disbursements is attached, together with a short supporting statement.

The Claimant’s representatives, Moorside Legal, have been copied into this correspondence.

Yours faithfully,

[Defendant’s name]

You would need to include the following with the email as PDF attachments:

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Supporting statement (for paper costs determination)

Claim No.: [xxxx]
Parties: [Claimant] v [Defendant]
Court: [County Court hearing centre]

Defendant’s statement in support of costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g)

1. I am the Defendant. I make this statement in support of my request for a summary assessment of my costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g) following the Claimant’s late discontinuance.

2. The Particulars of Claim were deficient and did not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a), in that they failed to set out a properly particularised cause of action. My Defence was confined to that pleading defect, and I could not serve a witness statement unless and until the Claimant clarified its case by serving its own evidence.

3. The court gave directions requiring witness evidence. The Claimant served no witness statement. Notwithstanding that failure, the Claimant paid the hearing fee and allowed the matter to proceed until approximately 24 hours before the listed hearing on [hearing date], when it filed a Notice of Discontinuance (N279) on [date].

4. This sequence required me to spend significant time and effort: reviewing and researching the rules, preparing and filing a Defence, corresponding about the defective pleadings and directions, and chasing the court for updates, only for the claim to be abandoned on the eve of trial. In my submission, that conduct has no reasonable explanation and amounts to “unreasonable behaviour” within CPR 27.14(2)(g) as explained by the Court of Appeal in Dammermann v Lanyon Bowdler [2017] EWCA Civ 269.

5. Although CPR 38.6(3) limits costs consequences of discontinuance on the small-claims track, CPR 27.14(2)(g) permits the court to award “further costs” where a party has behaved unreasonably. I therefore ask the court to summarily assess my costs as a litigant in person at the guideline rate of £19 per hour for time reasonably spent, together with modest disbursements, as set out in the attached Schedule.

If the court considers a formal application is required, I respectfully invite a direction that any application fee be added to the costs payable by the Claimant.

Statement of Truth

I believe that the facts stated in this supporting statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:

Date:

Name: [Defendant’s full name]
Address/email: [service details]

And here is a sample itemised schedule of costs. Make sure that you don't exaggerate and be realistic on the amount of time spent.

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Itemised schedule of costs (CPR 27.14(2)(g))

Claim No.: [xxxx] — [Claimant] v [Defendant]
Defendant: [name] (litigant in person)
Hourly rate claimed: £19.00 (LiP guideline)

Work done (reasonably caused by the Claimant’s conduct):

1. Reviewing claim form and defective Particulars; identifying CPR 16.4 issues – 2.0 h
2. Researching CPR 16/27/38 and relevant authorities; considering case strategy – 4.0 h
3. Drafting and filing Defence focused on pleading defects – 3.0 h
4. Correspondence with Claimant/court re directions, witness evidence and status; chasing court – 2.5 h
5. Preparing this costs request: chronology, supporting statement, schedule – 1.5 h

Subtotal time: 13.0 hours × £19.00 = £247.00

Disbursements (receipts available where indicated):

• Printing/photocopying/postage for Defence and correspondence: £[ ]
• (If required) N244 application fee for costs following discontinuance: £[ ]

Total costs sought: £[247.00 + disbursements]

Payment requested within 14 days of order.

Signed:

Date:

Name: [Defendant’s full name]

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