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CPM Parking fine whilst working on building site
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Hi everyone,
This is the first time I have been inclined to challenge a parking fine so please forgive me for any mistakes!

I was recently working on a building site and received a letter through the post saying I now owe £60 for the driver parking in a visitors bay just outside the site gates. All the bays, house etc were recently built by the same site.
I am just looking for some advice on my next steps.
Someone has told me to straight up ignore all letters I receive going forwards but I don't want to end up in a spot of bother!
I have attached photos of signage and where my van was parked etc.

https://imgur.com/a/gcJMFrE

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Re: CPM Parking fine whilst working on building site
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Ignoring is poor advice, don’t do it.
Can you post the letter received, first read https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/ ?

Re: CPM Parking fine whilst working on building site
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Ignoring is poor advice, don’t do it.
Can you post the letter received, first read https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/ ?

Hi thanks for your reply, this is the letter I received.

https://imgur.com/a/sISaX54

Re: CPM Parking fine whilst working on building site
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There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. CPM has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. CPM have no hope should you be so stupid as to try and litigate, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: CPM Parking fine whilst working on building site
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There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. CPM has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. CPM have no hope should you be so stupid as to try and litigate, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.

Thank you for this!
It says on the letter where to appeal on Thier website and also that I should include my name, serviceable address and vehicle registration number, is this all okay to give over?
I don't want to drop myself in anything by doing that!
Thanks again

Re: CPM Parking fine whilst working on building site
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I should include my name, serviceable address and vehicle registration number, is this all okay to give over?
They already have all three of those things (they used them to send the PCN to you), so there is no harm in providing them - indeed you will need to, otherwise they've no idea who the appeal is from.