Author Topic: PCN - Parked in a disabled bay without displaying valid Disabled badge Grove Farm Retail Park Chadwell Heath. RM6 4BN  (Read 6411 times)

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I recently received a parking charge for parking in a disabled bay at Chadwell Heath Retail Park. However, this charge is unfair, as my vehicle had broken down and was unable to move. I had no choice but to wait for a recovery truck to arrive and take me home. As evidence, I have provided the parking company with a breakdown report confirming the incident.

At the time, my vehicle was experiencing mechanical issues, and after breaking down, it was pushed into the bay to avoid obstructing traffic. There were no other nearby parking spaces available to move the vehicle into. Despite explaining the situation and submitting evidence, my appeal to G24 was rejected. The appeals process on their PCN was also quite difficult to navigate, but I eventually managed to submit my appeal.

They have now advised me to escalate the appeal through the IAS (Independent Appeals Service). However, I understand that the IAS has an extremely low success rate for motorists, making it highly unlikely that my appeal will be upheld.

I have attached all relevant documents, including correspondence and evidence.

Given the circumstances, what would be the best course of action to challenge this charge?

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The Notice is not PoFA compliant so, don't tell 'em your name Pike!

However, the AA report does not give any detail about the location of the breakdown or the actual time the AA person attended. Is there another element to the AA report that you have not shown us?

The AA report was sent 2:28 after the vehicle was photographed at the location by the G24 operative. You need to evidence that the vehicle was broken down at the time of the alleged contravention or soon after. The AA report is show as having been sent at 20:42 and the PCN evidence shows the vehicle at the location for just 9 seconds, which is not evidence of a "parking period".

Easily defended if it ever went as far as a claim. What exactly did you put in your appeal to G24?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

i didnt tell them my name i believe they requested my name from the DVLA as they sent me a letter to my address.

I basically told them exactly what i said to the appeals process that my vehicle broke down there was only that spot to push the vehicle out of the way and a breakdown service attended then towed my vehicle away and that when the ticket person issued the fine it was probably when i walked away for a minute to flag down the aa driver.

the AA report time is when the driver closed the job its automatically sent to me.

shall i just ignore them as theyre just being petty not cancelling the charge plus as you state its only showing 9 seconds

G24 obtained the name of the registered keeper of the car, there is no way they know who the driver of the car was unless you tell them. So don’t, you are under no obligation to do so.

But your post implies that you did tell them who the driver was.
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We know that they know your name. No one said not to actually give them your name. As @jfollows said above, they do not know the name of the driver unless you tell them, inadvertently or otherwise.

So, if you've responded to them as the Keeper (because the NtK is addressed to you) and said "I parked at the location and was broken down..." instead of referring to the driver in the third person with "The driver parked at the location and was broken down...", you have inadvertently let them know that you, the Keeper, were also the driver. Up until that point they had no idea who the driver was.

The Keeper and the driver are separate legal entities and there is no legal obligation on the Keeper to identify the driver to an unregulated private parking company. So, if their NtK was not compliant with PoFA, then they cannot transfer liability from the unknown driver to the known Keeper.

"Golden ticket" as long as the driver is not identified. So, can you now clarify whether you think you have identified the Keeper as also being the driver?
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here is the message that i sent to the company.

I am writing to formally appeal the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) issued to my vehicle, registration number CY11 UKA, on 9th December 2024 at Grove Farm Retail Park, Chadwell Heath, RM6 4BN.

On the date in question, my vehicle broke down at the retail park and became immobile. I had contacted AA recovery services to assist me, and they were en route to the location. I momentarily stepped away from the vehicle to flag down the recovery driver and provide guidance to the exact location. Upon my return, I found that this PCN had been issued for parking in a disabled bay without displaying a valid disabled badge.

I would like to emphasize the following points:

Unforeseeable Mechanical Breakdown: My vehicle was immobile due to a mechanical failure, a situation entirely beyond my control. I had no choice but to remain in the retail park while awaiting recovery.
Temporary Absence: My brief absence from the vehicle was solely to assist the recovery driver from the AA in locating me, as the situation required urgency and cooperation. This absence was neither negligent nor an intentional violation of parking rules.
Mitigating Circumstances: According to the British Parking Association (BPA) Code of Practice, Section 17.4, consideration should be given to mitigating circumstances, such as a vehicle breakdown.
To support my appeal, I have attached the breakdown report from the AA, which confirms the mechanical failure and the recovery service provided.

Given the exceptional circumstances and the evidence provided, I kindly request that you cancel this parking charge notice.

Thank you for your understanding and prompt attention to this matter. I look forward to your response.

Yours sincerely,

OK. So you identified as the driver. PoFA breaches by G24 cannot be argued. Never mind. there are other breaches that will go against them.

However, as you have exhausted the appeals process, you will have to wait for the inevitable court claim. This is good because it is the only truly independent dispute resolution service.

Ignore all the debt collector letters that are going to come your way. They are powerless and can only scare the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree to pay out of ignorance and fear. Nothing will happen.

You are now waiting for a Letter of Claim (LoC). Come back when you receive won of those and we will advise on how to respond.

You can, in the meantime, send a formal complaint to G24 and to the DVLA. As G24 have breached the BPA/IPC Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP) by incorrectly reducing the time allowed to make payment before debt recovery action can begin, they have also breached the DVLA KADOE contract.

Send the following as a formal complaint to G24 to begin with:

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[Your Name] 
[Your Address] 
[City, Postcode] 
[Email Address] 

G24 Ltd 
Complaints Department
PO BOX 3320
Gerrards Cross
SL9 8WT 

[Date] 


By email to: info@g24.co.uk

Subject: Formal Complaint – Parking Charge [PCN Reference] – Breach of PPSCoP 

Dear Sir/Madam, 

I am writing to formally complain about Parking Charge Notice (PCN [Reference]) issued for an alleged contravention at Chadwell Heath Retail Park. This charge is both unjust and in breach of the BPA/IPC Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP)

Background of the Complaint 
My vehicle suffered a mechanical failure and was immobilised while awaiting recovery. Due to the lack of alternative spaces, the vehicle was pushed into a disabled bay to avoid obstructing traffic. I submitted a breakdown report confirming the mechanical failure and subsequent recovery, yet G24 rejected my appeal.
 

Following your rejection, I escalated my case to the Independent Appeals Service (IAS), but the appeal was also unsuccessful. Given your failure to comply with the PPSCoP, I am now lodging this formal complaint before escalating the matter to the DVLA and IPC.
 

Breach #1 – Incorrect Payment Deadline 
Your Notice to Keeper (NtK) unlawfully states that payment must be made within 28 days from the "issue" date. This is a clear misrepresentation of the required timeframe under the PPSCoP, which mandates that recipients have 28 days from the date of "receipt" to respond or make payment. This breach unfairly reduces the time available to challenge the charge, rendering the notice non-compliant with industry regulations.
 

Breach #2 – Failure to Apply Breakdown Exemption (Annex F1(c)) 
The PPSCoP explicitly prohibits enforcement against a broken-down vehicle awaiting recovery. Clause Annex F1(c) of the PPSCoP states:
 

"A Parking Charge Notice must not be issued where there is evidence that the vehicle was immobilised due to a mechanical fault and was awaiting recovery."
 

Despite submitting irrefutable evidence of the breakdown, including an official breakdown report, G24 wrongfully refused to cancel the charge. This constitutes a clear failure to adhere to the PPSCoP and demonstrates an unfair enforcement policy.
 

Concerns Regarding Late Delivery of the NtK 
The NtK was received after the 14-day deadline for PoFA compliance, and I do not believe that the notice was actually sent on the date it was issued. Furthermore, I have reason to believe that G24 did not use a first-class or equivalent service to comply with the two-working-day delivery assumption under PoFA. Most hybrid mail systems used by consolidators employ a slower 2-3 day delivery service, which does not meet this requirement.
 

As such, I require G24 to provide evidential proof of the actual date the notice was entered into the postal system. The PPSCoP states clearly at section 8.1.2(e) Note 2:
 

"Parking operators must retain a record of the date of posting of a notice, not simply of that notice having been generated (e.g. the date that any third-party Mail Consolidator actually put it in the postal system.)"
 

Therefore, G24 must evidence the actual date the notice was posted, not simply generated. An internally generated certificate of posting by hybrid mail from a consolidator does not satisfy this requirement, and G24 must obtain proof from their mail consolidator of the exact date the notice was submitted into the postal system.
 

Requested Actions 
To resolve this matter, I require the following:
 

1. A written response addressing the specific breaches of the PPSCoP outlined above. 
2. Acknowledgment that the charge should have been cancelled under the breakdown exemption clause
3. Provision of documented proof from your mail consolidator confirming the exact date the NtK was entered into the postal system and the postal service used.
 

Response Deadline and Notice of Escalation 
I expect a full response within 14 days of this letter. Failure to respond satisfactorily will result in the following actions:
 

- A formal complaint to the DVLA for G24's breach of its Keeper At Date Of Event (KADOE) contract, which governs access to DVLA keeper data. 
- A formal complaint to the International Parking Community (IPC) for non-compliance with the PPSCoP. 
- Further action, including potential legal challenge, if the charge is not cancelled immediately.
 

I trust that G24 will take this matter seriously and respond accordingly.
 

Yours sincerely, 

[Your Name]

Send it as a pdf attachment to an email to info@g24.co.uk and CC in yourself. If they come back to you with some rubbish about not accepting complaints at that email address, then, if you have not already done so anyway, send it by post, first class and obtain a free "Proof of Posting Certificate" from any post office.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Recieved a reply today from G24

Dear Sir/Madam

 

Thank you for your email.

 

For any queries relating to a Contractual Parking Charge Notice, please contact our Appeals Team who will be able to assist.

 

There are two available appeal procedures provided to you on the back of the Contractual Parking Charge Notice. I have laid these out for you below. Please kindly follow this option where our appeals team will update the details.     

 

www.appealyourcharge.co.uk

 

or alternatively please write into our PO BOX address;

 

G24 Ltd

PO BOX 3320,

Gerrards Cross,

Bucks,

SL9 8WT

 

If you wish to make a complaint, please follow the correct process and write into the above PO BOX address.

 

Alternatively, you can contact our Customer Services Team on 0370 042 7215.

 

For information regarding your data, please visit our privacy notice on the link below.

 

www.g24.co.uk/privacy-notice

 

You may not receive further communication from this email.

 

Yours Sincerely

 

G24

I would do as below:

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If they come back to you with some rubbish about not accepting complaints at that email address, then, if you have not already done so anyway, send it by post, first class and obtain a free "Proof of Posting Certificate" from any post office.

Hi all

So after sending that complaint I haven't recieved a reply yet from them.

I have however today recieved a bailiff letter.

Please see attached

What are my steps now?

Thanks

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I have removed those attachments. You may wish to obscure your name and home address.

It is not a bailiff letter. Just because they use the name "bailiff" it does not mean that that is a bailiff letter. You can safely ignore any debt recovery letter. They are powerless to actually do anything except to make the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree pay out of ignorance and fear. Ignore them and we don't need to know about them.

Never, ever communicate with a powerless debt collector. You can shred their letter and use them as hamster bedding. Nothing will happen.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Thank you for your reply.

Yeah, I completely agree. Debt collectors rely on fear and ignorance to make people pay when they have no real power. Unless it’s a court order or an actual bailiff with legal authority, their letters mean nothing. I’ll just ignore it and move on. Appreciate the advice!

Also, in the meantime, should I just wait for any further developments? I checked the Royal Mail tracking, and my complaint letter was collected by G24—it even has a signature confirming receipt. What would you suggest I do next, if anything?

I've attached the proof of postage.




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Wait for the response to your complaint. You didn't have to sed it recorded delivery. You could simply have used first class post and sent it from any post office with a free proof of posting certificate. That would have been enough to satisfy the requirements of the Interpretation Act as evidence that it had been delivered two working days later.

In the meantime, you can also make a formal complaint to the DVLA about this operator.

Here’s how to make a DVLA complaint:

• Go to: https://contact.dvla.gov.uk/complaints
• Select: “Making a complaint or compliment about the Vehicles service you have received”
• Enter your personal details, contact details, and vehicle details
• Use the text box to summarise your complaint or insert a covering note
• You will then be able to upload a file (up to 19.5 MB) — this can be your full complaint or supporting evidence
That’s it.

The DVLA is required to record, investigate and respond to every complaint about a private parking company. If everyone who encounters a breach took the time to submit a complaint, we might finally see the DVLA take meaningful action—whether that means curtailing or removing KADOE access altogether.

For the text part of the complaint the webform could use the following:

I am submitting a formal complaint against [INSERT PPC NAME], an [INSERT IPC or BPA] AOS member with DVLA KADOE access, for breaching the BPA/IPC Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP) after obtaining my personal data.

While the Operator may have had reasonable cause at the time of their KADOE request, their subsequent misuse of my data—through conduct that contravenes the PPSCoP—renders that use unlawful. The PPSCoP forms an integral part of the DVLA’s governance framework for data access by private parking firms. Continued access is conditional on compliance.

The DVLA, as data controller, is obliged under UK GDPR and the Data Protection Act 2018 to investigate and take enforcement action when data is misused following release. This complaint is not about whether the data was obtained lawfully at the outset, but whether its subsequent use breached the terms under which it was provided.

I have prepared a supporting statement setting out the nature of the breach and the Operator’s actions, and I request a full investigation into this matter. I have attached the supporting document.

Please acknowledge receipt and confirm the reference number for this complaint.

Then you could upload the following as a PDF file for the formal complaint itself:

SUPPORTING STATEMENT

Complaint to DVLA – Breach of KADOE Contract and PPSCoP

Operator name: [INSERT PPC NAME]
Date of PCN issue: [INSERT DATE]
Vehicle registration: [INSERT VRM]

I am submitting this complaint to report a misuse of my personal data by [INSERT PPC NAME], who obtained my keeper details from the DVLA under the KADOE (Keeper At Date Of Event) contract.

Although the parking company may have had reasonable cause to request my data initially, the way they have used that data afterwards amounts to unlawful processing. This is because they have acted in breach of the BPA/IPC Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP), which is a mandatory requirement for access to DVLA keeper data. The PPSCoP forms part of the framework that regulates how parking companies must behave once they have received keeper data from the DVLA.

The KADOE contract makes clear that keeper data may only be used to pursue an unpaid parking charge in line with the Code of Practice. If a parking company fails to comply with the PPSCoP after receiving DVLA data, their use of that data becomes unlawful, as they are no longer using it for a permitted purpose.

In this case, [INSERT PPC NAME] has breached the PPSCoP in the following ways:

[INSERT A SHORT SUMMARY OF THE BREACH(ES), e.g. failure to follow grace periods, misleading notices, refusal to engage with a complaint, pursuing a charge despite having evidence of disability or mitigation, etc.]

These are not minor or technical breaches. They show a clear disregard for the standards required under the current single Code. As a result, the operator is no longer entitled to use the keeper data they obtained from the DVLA, because the purpose for which it was provided (a fair and lawful pursuit of a charge under the Code) no longer applies.

The DVLA remains the Data Controller for the data it releases under KADOE, and is therefore responsible for ensuring that personal data is not misused by third parties. This includes taking action against AOS operators who breach the conditions under which the data was provided. I am therefore asking the DVLA to investigate this breach and to take appropriate action under the terms of the KADOE contract.

This may include:

• Confirming that a breach has occurred
• Taking enforcement action against the operator
•Suspending or terminating their KADOE access if warranted

I have attached relevant supporting material with this statement. Please confirm receipt and provide a reference for this complaint. I am also happy to provide further information if required.

Name: [INSERT YOUR NAME]
Date: [INSERT DATE]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Today I have recieved a reply from G24 after my complaint letter please see attached and advice thanks all

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