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OK. It wasn't there the other day.
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Unless they have another trading name I'm not aware of, they certainly don't seem to appear on the list of Accredited Operators... Being a member and holding accredited operator status is not the same thing.

https://portal.theipc.info/aos-members/p
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Unless they're an "Accredited Operator", they cannot lawfully access DVLA data under the KADOE contract.
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Does the "ticket" your friend found, mention anything about requesting keeper data from the DVLA? Perhaps you could show us the NtD, both sides.
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Accredited of course, edited. I always get them mixed up in my head for some reason.

Yes, now they've found the ticket, a copy of the same would be interesting to see.
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I am attaching here an excerpt from the PCN where access to DVLA data is discussed.

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Here is the notice in full. It is printed on receipt paper. There is nothing on the reverse.

Also, the site management responded to say that "...under the terms of the agreement with PCS, [they] are unable to intervene in the appeals process..."

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The site management would say that. However, if they are the party that contracted PCS, then they are jointly and severally liable for the actions of their agent.

For now, the Keeper should not do anything. If PCS apply to the DVLA without being accredited to the IPC, then they are acting unlawfully and breaching the keepers GDPR. You can guarantee that without accreditation, their contractual right to even issue PCNs is invalid.

They are not permitted to request DVLA data under PoFA before 4th June, so don’t expect anything from them before 7th-8th June, assuming they try to breach the KADOE contract and then lose their access permanently.
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Supposing between then and now, they were to update/renew their membership / acredited status?

It is my understanding, from some basic searches, that they would not have the right to use a new membership to make DVLA requests on a previously issued PCN. Is this correct?
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For the record, I have today visited the site to see what signage they have in place. I’ll upload photos later when I’m at my desk, but interestingly the signs state that PCS is an “Approved BPA Operator” and display the BPA logos.

To reiterate, the language on the sign is ‘approved’ not ‘accredited’, though this is presumably moot anyway given that they appear to no longer be a BPA member of any kind…
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They used to be a BPA member. However, that does not remove from the fact that they are not listed as an accredited AOS member of either the BPA or the IPC.

This may be because they have been sanctioned by the ATA for other transgressions or whatever. However, they have stated in their NtD that they may apply to the DVLA for the Keepers data, when they have no lawful authority to do so.

This constitutes a misrepresentation of authority, which would be a breach of the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 (CPUTRs), a breach of the DVLA’s KADOE Contract (which requires truthful statements about data usage and access) and a potentially reportable breach to the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO).
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So one could potentially interpret this a two separate breaches of that particular code?

One: the false claim on the signage that they are an approved BPA operator: and two: the false claim on the signage that they can and will retrieve personal data from the DVLA.

So the best course of action is to ignore?

Is it possible that they are in fact an accredited operator and that, for whatever reason, the list is simply not up to date? I ask this simply in considering every possible eventuality.
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I would suggest that rather than us expending much effort exploring every possibility on the remote chance that one of them comes to pass, we wait and see what actually happens (if anything) and then advise accordingly.

Ignore it and if they do send a NtK, we can deal with it.
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I have just received a response to the FOI request from the DVLA who confirm that PCS are an IPC member and were able to make KADOE requests from 14th March 2019.

They do not appear on the IPCs list of AOS members and I have sent a query to the IPC about this company and asked why do they not appear on their list.

We wait and see.
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Okay… thank you for the update. Nothing has been received yet, but I suppose this means a letter should be expected in the mail.
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