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Hi all,

I got this letter and obviously it looks very serious. I was absolutely anxious but then did a lot of research and I think I'm somewhat certain of what to do next but need specific advice please? Apologies if I'm repeating what others already have.

Long story short, I don't remember the circumstances surrounding the ticket and I am fairly certain that day the car park machine wasn't working and the guy told me to leave a note. Unfortunately I don't have any evidence. I'm sure I was there less than 1 hour so about £2.50. I ignored all of the other letters which i probably shouldn't have.

From what I'm reading, most likely this would be discontinued but I want to fight it even if it goes to court because well, why not? I'm already being asked to pay an extortionate fee.

Part of the reason why my memory of this is a blur is because it was during covid time. I lost my father at the time and I really was all over the place.

I also changed car so that vehicle no longer belongs to me (not that it matters.

Am I correct in assuming I just complete the AoS form only? Should I post it? Email it?

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Re: N1sdt form DCB Legal eurocarparks
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Welcome.

Am I correct in assuming I just complete the AoS form only?
Yes, for now.

Should I post it? Email it?
Neither. The form includes instructions on registering for the online service (MCOL) - on there you can acknowledge service online. There's a guide to doing so here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Once you have done that let us know and we can advise on defence.

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With an issue date of 6th February, you have until 4pm Tuesday 25th February to submit your defence. If you submit an AoS before that date, you would then have until 4pm on Tuesday 11th March to submit your defence.

Here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you send both documents as PDF attachments in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of Euro Car Parks Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

Euro Car Parks Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather
than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: N1sdt form DCB Legal eurocarparks
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Thank you very much.

So I've submitted the AoS for more time. See attached.

I will submit the defence next week based on your post. Once again thank you.

Also, am I correct in not ticking the i intend to contest jurisdiction? I read somewhere this needs to not be ticked.

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Do you reside in Scotland? If not then you do not need to contest jurisdiction.

Why are you filling out the paper AoS? DO to touch the forms that came with the claim. You should be following the instructions on how to submit the AoS, if you need to submit one, otherwise, you simply submit the Defence as provided with the instructions.

Everything is done electronically. Do not use paper forms for anything. AoS by MCOL... if you need extra time, otherwise the defence is sent by email.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Do you reside in Scotland? If not then you do not need to contest jurisdiction.

Why are you filling out the paper AoS? DO to touch the forms that came with the claim. You should be following the instructions on how to submit the AoS, if you need to submit one, otherwise, you simply submit the Defence as provided with the instructions.

Everything is done electronically. Do not use paper forms for anything. AoS by MCOL... if you need extra time, otherwise the defence is sent by email.

Hi there.

Sorry i didn't make it clear. I did the AoS it online. That's the pdf it gave me at the end of the process.

I will submit the defence online also as advised.

Thanks appreciate it

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To be clear, the defence is submitted by email, not MCOL

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With an issue date of 6th February, you have until 4pm Tuesday 25th February to submit your defence. If you submit an AoS before that date, you would then have until 4pm on Tuesday 11th March to submit your defence.

Here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you send both documents as PDF attachments in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of Euro Car Parks Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

Euro Car Parks Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather
than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence

Quick question, the defence draft order you added, which stage would that be used? I get the defence statement template bit but not the draft order attached. Sorry for asking a silly question.

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That is attached alongside the defence, as stated in point #4 of the defence.

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That is attached alongside the defence, as stated in point #4 of the defence.

Amazing thank you

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Ideally, the draft order is added as an additional page to the same pdf document as the defence. In other words, the defence and draft order should be a single PDF document, three pages long as in this blank template:

Defence and draft order

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Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: N1sdt form DCB Legal eurocarparks
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Hi,

I submitted the defence with the draft order as one pdf and emailed it to that address. I've copied in two of my personal email addresses for records. I've got the auto reply from the CNBC mail box. Do I just wait now? What if they don't log it and the deadline is missed?

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If you have the auto-reply from the CNBC then that is your receipt. Just check your MCOL history in a few days to check if it has been updated to show receipt of your defence.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: N1sdt form DCB Legal eurocarparks
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Hello all,

Thank so much for all the advice so far. I received a questionnaire form and a letter from dcb legal which I imagine is standard. Is this normal and I can fill this online and email it?

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Re: N1sdt form DCB Legal eurocarparks
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Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain