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HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
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Hello,

I received a parking ticket back in 2024, which I ignored, and now court proceedings have been issued against me by Moorside Legal.

I followed the general advice on here, and filed a defence to their scant Particulars of Claim, stating that there were deficient. I also made no offer at mediation. The matter has been referred back to court, and a judge ordered Moorside legal to serve an updated Particulars of Claim, which they have done. I now need to draft a defence, and need some advice on how to respond.

Background to the claim: My vehicle was parked on land controlled by PCM, not in a bay. The driver was there for a few minutes making a food delivery as part of their job. No ticket was placed on the car, but a NtD was posted to me, and then followed up with a NtK.

Moorside has provided a contract with the landowner, but it is dated AFTER the date of the parking ticket. They also have incorrectly stated that a ticket was place on the car, when it wasn’t.

Are you able to advise how to respond to the new Particulars of claim? The defence must be filed and served by 12 May 2026.

Thanks

Links to image of Particulars is below

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« Last Edit: May 01, 2026, 10:42:26 pm by ElleLamps »

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Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #1 on: »
So that we can properly advise, please show us the Exhibits that Moorside refer to in their updated particulars.

Please also show us the order made by the judge, so that we can see if they have sufficiently met its requirements.

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
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"but a NtD was posted to me, and then followed up with a NtK."
Can you post up a copy of these?

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #3 on: »
I've now attached links to the documents which should be labeled.

Exhibit sheet 1
Image IMG 20260504 WA0036 in the Ellelamps's images album
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Court order
Image IMG 20260504 WA0037 in the Ellelamps's images album
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Photo of vehicle at location (4)
Image IMG 20260504 WA0038 in the Ellelamps's images album
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Photo of vehicle at location (3)
Image IMG 20260504 WA0039 in the Ellelamps's images album
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Photo of vehicle at location (2)
Image IMG 20260504 WA0040 in the Ellelamps's images album
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Photo of signage https://ibb.co/v6NfJNBN
Photo of vehicle at location https://ibb.co/Ps04Q6v5
https://ibb.co/5XDT0rjN
Exhibit sheet 4 https://ibb.co/rKW48X2z
https://ibb.co/rG2jMt6z
Notice to keeper (2) https://ibb.co/5WFzrmrB
Notice to keeper (1)  https://ibb.co/tPLb4kPs
Parking signage (2)  https://ibb.co/Y74LQYVD
Exhibit sheet 3 https://ibb.co/dwZtw1Yx
Parking signage (1)  https://ibb.co/YBNBtWS0
Exhibit sheet 2 https://ibb.co/YTjvk2Dc
Landowner authority (2) https://ibb.co/4wxhdcZ7
Landowner authority (1) https://ibb.co/z0cntZ0
« Last Edit: May 04, 2026, 11:13:47 pm by ElleLamps »

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #4 on: »
In terms of terminology, there was no Notice to Driver, which would have been attached to the car, but a Notice to Keeper followed by a reminder follow-up notice.

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7(1)A notice which is to be relied on as a notice to driver for the purposes of paragraph 6(1)(a) is given in accordance with this paragraph if the following requirements are met.

(2)The notice must—

(a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;

(b)inform the driver of the requirement to pay parking charges in respect of the specified period of parking and describe those charges, the circumstances in which the requirement arose (including the means by which it was brought to the attention of drivers) and the other facts that made those charges payable;

(c)inform the driver that the parking charges relating to the specified period of parking have not been paid in full and specify the total amount of the unpaid parking charges relating to that period, as at a time which is—

(i)specified in the notice; and

(ii)no later than the time specified under paragraph (f);

(d)inform the driver of any discount offered for prompt payment and the arrangements for the resolution of disputes or complaints that are available;

(e)identify the creditor and specify how and to whom payment may be made;

(f)specify the time when the notice is given and the date.

(3)The notice must relate only to a single period of parking specified under sub-paragraph (2)(a) (but this does not prevent the giving of separate notices each specifying different parts of a single period of parking).

(4)The notice must be given—

(a)before the vehicle is removed from the relevant land after the end of the period of parking to which the notice relates, and

(b)while the vehicle is stationary,

by affixing it to the vehicle or by handing it to a person appearing to be in charge of the vehicle.

The NtK does not specify a “period of parking” for one thing.

It would help significantly is the separate posts above were also labelled, it’s a huge pain having to look at each one to find the NtK, for example, and I suspect many people will give up.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2026, 10:04:51 pm by jfollows »

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #5 on: »
I've noe attached links to documents which should be labeled.

Exhibit sheet 1
Image IMG 20260504 WA0036 in the Ellelamps's images album
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Court order
Image IMG 20260504 WA0037 in the Ellelamps's images album
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Photo of vehicle at location (4)
Image IMG 20260504 WA0038 in the Ellelamps's images album
ImgBB · ibb.co

Photo of vehicle at location (3)
Image IMG 20260504 WA0039 in the Ellelamps's images album
ImgBB · ibb.co

Photo of vehicle at location (2)
Image IMG 20260504 WA0040 in the Ellelamps's images album
ImgBB · ibb.co

Photo of signage https://ibb.co/v6NfJNBN
Photo of vehicle at location https://ibb.co/Ps04Q6v5
https://ibb.co/5XDT0rjN
Exhibit sheet 4 https://ibb.co/rKW48X2z
https://ibb.co/rG2jMt6z
Notice to keeper (2) https://ibb.co/5WFzrmrB
Notice to keeper (1)  https://ibb.co/tPLb4kPs
Parking signage (2)  https://ibb.co/Y74LQYVD
Exhibit sheet 3 https://ibb.co/dwZtw1Yx
Parking signage (1)  https://ibb.co/YBNBtWS0
Exhibit sheet 2 https://ibb.co/YTjvk2Dc
Landowner authority (2) https://ibb.co/4wxhdcZ7
Landowner authority (1) https://ibb.co/z0cntZ0

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #6 on: »
I am drafting the defence to this today, as it needs to be served by Tuesday, so any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

SO, I see that there were two NtK. Does that mean that they can't pursue the keeper, becuse a NtD was not served?

Also, there is not period of parking, but the photos have different times on there. Would that not count?

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #7 on: »
There is no requirement to serve a Notice to Driver, in fact the majority of companies don’t.
A Notice to Keeper is sufficient, and if it complies with the legislation it can be used to transfer liability from the unknown driver to the registered keeper.
Providing pictures without explicitly stating a period of parking doesn’t comply, for example.

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #8 on: »
Great, thanks.

The PoC specifically state that a NtD was affixed to the car. This is factually incorrect. The date they say it was placed on the car is also incorrect on the PoC (24 March 2024 when the incident was in November 2025). I wonder if the PoC can be attaked on that basis, and what other routes there may be to avoid keeper liability.

I've also noticed that the date the landowner authority to Parking Control Management was signed (23.04.25)post dates the alleged parking infringement date, so I'll argue that they have no authority to pursue the case in their name.

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #9 on: »
Absolutely, their revised particulars of claim being significantly incorrect needs to form part of your defence. Especially when their initial boilerplate nonsense was thrown out by the court, they had an opportunity to get it right and didn’t.

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #10 on: »
Have you posted the current PoC?

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #11 on: »
Yes, in my first post.

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #12 on: »
Have you posted the current PoC?
In the very first post in the thread.

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #13 on: »
Absolutely, their revised particulars of claim being significantly incorrect needs to form part of your defence.
I'd be tempted to be careful with the wording of the defence here for reasons I'll explain. It seems very unlikely that a Notice to Driver was ever affixed to the vehicle, but we don't know for sure. What we do know is this:
  • When the driver returned to their vehicle, no Notice to Driver was present
  • None of the claimant's evidence shows that a Notice to Driver was present
I'd be tempted to frame the argument on this point from this perspective. It can then be denied that the claimant can rely on the provisions of PoFA for several reasons. Firstly, you deny that a compliant Notice to Driver was served for the reasons above, and put them to proof that one was served. Then you can move on to the fact that if, as claimed, a notice to driver was served, then their subsequent Notice to Keeper was not issued within the relevant period, further reinforcing that no keeper liability can apply.

Of course, also point out the material errors (such as the March date) - you could probably do this as two points: "It is denied that a Notice to Driver was affixed to the vehicle on 29 March 2024, as the alleged parking event occurred over 8 months later on 30 November 2024. The Defendant draws attention to the Claimant's representative signing a statement of truth stating his belief that the facts in the Particulars of Claim are true, despite this not being the case." Then: "It is further denied that a compliant Notice to Driver was served on the material date. No Notice to Driver was present when the driver returned to the vehicle, and none of the exhibits provided by the claimant show any such notice affixed to the vehicle. The Claimant is put to strict proof that a compliant Notice to Driver was properly served."
"Even if a compliant Notice to Driver was served, it is denied that the subsequent Notice to Keeper complies with the requirements of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act..." and so on.

Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
« Reply #14 on: »
Agreed.

I would think of starting that the original Particulars of Claim were deemed not to comply with CPR 16.4 by the court, and the amended Particulars of Claim to which you are now filing a defence are factually incorrect, and go on to explain why with the caveats discussed by @DWMB2 above.

The person viewing your defence may not be aware that the original Particulars of Claim were determined to be inadequate by the court, so I’d definitely want to point this out explicitly again in the new defence.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2026, 02:11:20 pm by jfollows »
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