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Re: Letter Before Claim - Moorside Legal - PCN
« Reply #15 on: »
Send the following email to the SRA at report@sra.org.uk and CC help@moorsidelegal.co.uk and yourself:

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Subject: Complaint: Moorside Legal – Breach of PAPDC and SRA Principles 1, 2 and 5

To: report@sra.org.uk
Cc: help@moorsidelegal.co.uk

Dear Sirs,

I wish to lodge a formal complaint regarding the conduct of Moorside Legal in relation to their handling of a purported private parking claim. Moorside are copied into this email for transparency.

Background

Moorside Legal issued a Letter of Claim dated [insert date].

On [insert date], I sent a PAPDC-compliant request for disclosure of key documents.

On [insert date], Moorside replied by directing me to their own portal and imposing a seven-day payment deadline.

On [insert date], I replied (copy attached), pointing out that disclosure via their portal is not compliance, that their deadline was improper, and that they had still failed to provide key documents.

Despite repeated opportunities, Moorside have still not provided the following:

No signage photographs. Not a single contemporaneous photograph of the signage allegedly forming the basis of their client’s contractual claim has been provided. A CCTV still of a vehicle proves nothing.

No clause(s) identified. They have failed to identify the specific clause(s) of the supposed terms and conditions allegedly breached.

No landowner authority. They have refused to disclose the landowner agreement — an astonishing position given that their client’s very standing to bring a claim hinges on it.

£70 add-on. Their justification for the additional £70 is lifted wholesale from trade association boilerplate and does not explain whether it reflects actual incurred costs, damages, or consideration. They have also dodged the VAT question, again.

Conduct concerns

Non-compliance with PAPDC – Disclosure via Moorside’s own portal is not compliant with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 6(a)–(c). The Protocol requires provision of key documents by ordinary service, not hidden behind a login system. The portal appears designed to discourage recipients from scrutinising the evidence.

Improper deadlines – Moorside imposed a seven-day payment demand contrary to the Protocol’s mandatory 30-day period.

Abuse of process – The £70 “debt recovery” add-on is widely recognised as irrecoverable and improper.

Regulatory issues – These failings appear inconsistent with SRA Principles 1, 2 and 5, namely:

• Upholding the rule of law and proper administration of justice.

• Acting with integrity.

• Acting in a way that upholds public trust and confidence in the profession.

Impact

Moorside’s persistent refusal to serve key documents frustrates the Protocol’s very purpose, prejudices my ability to obtain advice, and risks unnecessary proceedings. It represents incompetence at best and sharp practice at worst. Their conduct appears to be a deliberate attempt to obstruct pre-litigation resolution and to pressurise payment without scrutiny of the claim.

Request

I ask the SRA to investigate and confirm what regulatory action will be taken against Moorside Legal. Their refusal to provide basic, mandatory disclosure (signage, clauses, landowner contract, quantum breakdown) is incompatible with the standards expected of solicitors and undermines public confidence.

Attachments:

• Moorside’s Letter of Claim [date].

• My PAPDC-compliant request [date].

• Moorside’s portal-only response [date].

• My reply dated [insert date], warning that their conduct would be reported to the SRA.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]
[Address]
[Email / Phone]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Letter Before Claim - Moorside Legal - PCN
« Reply #16 on: »
Thanks,

Out of curiosity, have these responses been as you'd have expected to this point?

I also get bounce backs whenever I email to any of the Moorside email addresses now.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2025, 07:11:48 pm by LuAl22 »

Re: Letter Before Claim - Moorside Legal - PCN
« Reply #17 on: »
All responses from the utter incompetents at Moorside are as expected. Please confirm that you have reported them to the SRA.

Which email addresses have you been trying to use for Moorside Legal that are "bouncing back"? Are the bounce-backs error messages or just auto-responses?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Letter Before Claim - Moorside Legal - PCN
« Reply #18 on: »
Thanks, and thanks for your help so far.

Yes, I have reported to SRA whose auto response said it could be up to 45 days for a reply.

Whenever I have emailed Moorside (help@, info@ and indeed also no-reply@) I get automatic responses saying my email is blocked.

Re: Letter Before Claim - Moorside Legal - PCN
« Reply #19 on: »
I have just sent a test email to help@moorsidelegal.co.uk and it has not bounced. I received their usual auto-response rubbish.

Can you please show us the content of the message/reason in the bounced emails.

They’re not entitled to force you onto a portal. The PAPDC requires proper engagement and disclosure. If you expressly asked for non-postal correspondence and supplied alternative contact details, they should use those details for the Letter of Claim, and if documents are requested they must provide them (or explain why not) within 30 days. Blocking your email address instead of engaging points to non-compliance.

Bocking emails is not, by itself, “unlawful”, and email is not a valid method of service unless consented to under PD 6A. But this is pre-action correspondence, not service. Using a published email address then deliberately blocking you frustrates the objectives of pre-action conduct and can attract sanctions (stay, costs adjustments) if they issue the claim without first engaging.

From a regulatory angle, an SRA-regulated firm must have effective systems and controls and act fairly; publishing contact routes and then obstructing communications may raise issues under the SRA Code of Conduct for Firms (e.g., maintaining trust, not misleading, and keeping effective systems).

What this gives you if they sue anyway, is that in the Defence (or early application), you can plead PAPDC non-compliance: (i) failure to use the non-postal contact route expressly specified, (ii) failure to provide requested documents within 30 days, and (iii) obstructing pre-action engagement by blocking the your email. Seek a stay and costs for unreasonable conduct under PDPAC paras 13–16.

Do not rely on “deemed service” by email; PD 6A requires prior written agreement for electronic service. Keep the point strictly as pre-action non-compliance, not service.

When the time comes, you can use something like this in your defence:

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The Claimant’s solicitors failed to comply with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims. The Defendant requested documents and clarification. Contrary to PAPDC paras 5.1–5.2, the Claimant failed to provide the requested documents within 30 days and then obstructed communication by blocking the Defendant’s emails to all published contact addresses, despite the Defendant’s express preference for non-postal contact per PAPDC para 3.3. Any proceedings should be stayed under PDPAC paras 13–16 pending full compliance, with the Claimant bearing the costs of this non-compliance.

Other options open to you are to send anything to them by post with a free certificate of posting from any post office and require them to only communicate by post. Whilst they are not required to use proof of posting, you can rebut any presumption of delivery should you not receive it.

Finally, you could just get yourself a new, free email address, such as a gmail one, that you use only for communication with the firm of incompetents. If the subsequently block that, you can add to your SRA complaint, especially if this happens after a claim has been issued.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Letter Before Claim - Moorside Legal - PCN
« Reply #20 on: »
Got it, thank you.

Re: Letter Before Claim - Moorside Legal - PCN
« Reply #21 on: »
I have just sent a test email to help@moorsidelegal.co.uk and it has not bounced. I received their usual auto-response rubbish.

Can you please show us the content of the message/reason in the bounced emails.

They’re not entitled to force you onto a portal. The PAPDC requires proper engagement and disclosure. If you expressly asked for non-postal correspondence and supplied alternative contact details, they should use those details for the Letter of Claim, and if documents are requested they must provide them (or explain why not) within 30 days. Blocking your email address instead of engaging points to non-compliance.

Bocking emails is not, by itself, “unlawful”, and email is not a valid method of service unless consented to under PD 6A. But this is pre-action correspondence, not service. Using a published email address then deliberately blocking you frustrates the objectives of pre-action conduct and can attract sanctions (stay, costs adjustments) if they issue the claim without first engaging.

From a regulatory angle, an SRA-regulated firm must have effective systems and controls and act fairly; publishing contact routes and then obstructing communications may raise issues under the SRA Code of Conduct for Firms (e.g., maintaining trust, not misleading, and keeping effective systems).

What this gives you if they sue anyway, is that in the Defence (or early application), you can plead PAPDC non-compliance: (i) failure to use the non-postal contact route expressly specified, (ii) failure to provide requested documents within 30 days, and (iii) obstructing pre-action engagement by blocking the your email. Seek a stay and costs for unreasonable conduct under PDPAC paras 13–16.

Do not rely on “deemed service” by email; PD 6A requires prior written agreement for electronic service. Keep the point strictly as pre-action non-compliance, not service.

When the time comes, you can use something like this in your defence:

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The Claimant’s solicitors failed to comply with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims. The Defendant requested documents and clarification. Contrary to PAPDC paras 5.1–5.2, the Claimant failed to provide the requested documents within 30 days and then obstructed communication by blocking the Defendant’s emails to all published contact addresses, despite the Defendant’s express preference for non-postal contact per PAPDC para 3.3. Any proceedings should be stayed under PDPAC paras 13–16 pending full compliance, with the Claimant bearing the costs of this non-compliance.

Other options open to you are to send anything to them by post with a free certificate of posting from any post office and require them to only communicate by post. Whilst they are not required to use proof of posting, you can rebut any presumption of delivery should you not receive it.

Finally, you could just get yourself a new, free email address, such as a gmail one, that you use only for communication with the firm of incompetents. If the subsequently block that, you can add to your SRA complaint, especially if this happens after a claim has been issued.

Apologies, I didn't see this response in full - I can't seem to add attachments now? But I have a screenshot of the email saying my email was blocked by them.

I've had a response from Moorside Legal, but not the SRA...

"We write in relation to the above matter.
Please be advised info@moorsidelegal.co.uk is not an email we use. Future corespondance will need to done via the below link. 
We ask that you make the full payment of £170.00 within 7 days of receipt of this email.
 
 
You can make payment in the following ways: 
Contact us on 0330 822 9950 (our opening times are Monday- Friday 9:00- 17:00);
portal.moorsidelegal.co.uk - Login to our portal
https://pay.moorside.legal - Quick Pay
 
 
If you fail to respond or make payment, we may be instructed by our client to issue legal proceedings against you. This will incur further costs and fees that will be added to the outstanding balance. You may wish to seek independent legal advice."

Do I tell them I won't respond until the SRA responds?

Re: Letter Before Claim - Moorside Legal - PCN
« Reply #22 on: »
No. Just wait for the claim to arrive and let us know.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Letter Before Claim - Moorside Legal - PCN
« Reply #23 on: »
Also now have a reply from SRA - was surprised (perhaps you're not) to find that they see no issues with the procedures, processes and steps Moorside Legal have taken to this point?

Was this step just a delay tactic or should the outcome have been more positive?

This was the crux of their email:

Our decision concerning the report you made to us
Thank you for your report regarding Moorside Legal Services Limited (the firm)
and its involvement in a parking charge dispute between you and the firm’s client.
You allege that:
1) The firm has not provided any signage photographs to support its clients
claim against you.
2) The firm has failed to identify the specific clause(s) of the parking terms
and conditions you have alleged to have breached.
3) The firm has refused to disclose the landowner agreement.
4) The firm have abused process in a £70 add-on charge for debt recovery.
5) The firm are in non-compliance with PAPDC and protocol for payment
demands.
After considering your report, we have decided we will not be taking any further
action.
Reasons for our decision
When we look into reports made to us, we make a decision on whether to
investigate based on our assessment threshold test. We look at:
• Whether there has been a potential breach of our rules.
• If there has been a breach of our rules, and if so, the nature of the
breach or whether the conduct forms part of a pattern of behaviour.
However, we typically only investigate the most serious allegations.
• Whether there is enough evidence to prove the breach.

In this case, your report did not pass the assessment threshold test because:
• We found there had not been a breach of our rules.
• We will not be able to prove the allegation(s) to the necessary
standard of evidence.

Please note that:
• The firm has acted on behalf of its client (and following their
instructions) in a legal matter for a parking charge notice dispute.
• It is not in breach of our rules or standards for a legal firm to charge
for debts it feels are owed to it. Whether those charges are reasonable
is a matter for a court to determine.
• We cannot tell a solicitor to take specific steps in your legal case or to
stop taking steps in your case.
• We do not have the power to make a solicitor or firm say sorry to you,
pay compensation to you for a mistake or to put things right in other
ways.
• We cannot intervene in legal disagreements, and the concerns you
raised with us is legal and/or procedural in nature, regarding a parking
charge notice dispute. This means it is ultimately for a court or a
Tribunal to determine the outcome. This is not something we, as a
regulator, can assist with and independent legal advice may need to
be sought.

Appreciate your assistance as ever.

NB: Haven't heard further from Moorside Legal since their last 7 day threat.

Thanks,

Re: Letter Before Claim - Moorside Legal - PCN
« Reply #24 on: »
Not surprising unfortunately. The SRA almost never intervenes in individual parking-related complaints unless there’s clear evidence of dishonesty, misuse of client money, or systemic misconduct. Their “assessment threshold test” is a very high bar — they focus on breaches of regulatory standards, not failures to follow the Civil Procedure Rules or Pre-Action Protocols.

In practical terms:

1. Why the outcome was negative
• The SRA’s remit is narrow: They regulate professional conduct, not procedural competence or pre-action behaviour. A solicitor could be technically non-compliant with the PAPDC and still fall short of “regulatory misconduct.”
• They defer to the courts: Anything procedural or evidential — like failure to supply documents, misuse of templates, or the £70 add-on — is seen as a civil matter for a judge to handle.
• Pattern threshold: The SRA typically acts only where multiple complaints suggest a pattern of abuse. One or two instances (even blatant) rarely trigger formal investigation.

2. Whether this was a delay tactic
Possibly, but more likely bureaucratic triage. Their standard wording is a template response used to close reports that they deem “outside regulatory scope.” It effectively parks the matter rather than examines it. They rely on the complainant not challenging the outcome or not escalating to their Independent Reviewer (who only reviews process, not substance).

3. What this means going forward
• The SRA won’t help, but the letter itself is useful. You can now show a judge that you attempted proper regulatory escalation and that Moorside’s conduct — though tolerated by the SRA — remains contrary to the PAPDC and CPR.
• You’ve bought time. The seven-day threat has expired without further action, so unless Moorside issue proceedings soon, their silence suggests the matter may have been paused or abandoned.
• If they do issue a claim, their PAPDC non-compliance remains a valid argument for a stay or strike-out request, and the SRA closure can be exhibited to show you exhausted non-judicial remedies.

4. Strategic next step
File the SRA’s response for reference, but there’s no need to reply. If you want to keep gentle pressure on Moorside, you could write a short note:

“Further to your failure to issue a compliant Letter of Claim and the SRA’s confirmation that your actions remain a matter for judicial scrutiny, I now await either your compliant disclosure or a claim form. Any proceedings will be defended in full, and your pre-action failures will be raised before the court.”

That reinforces your position without inviting more pointless correspondence.

In short: the SRA outcome is normal, not a defeat — it simply pushes the issue back into the judicial arena, where it carries more weight anyway.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Letter Before Claim - Moorside Legal - PCN
« Reply #25 on: »
Ok,

Thanks.

Still heard nothing from Moorside since their last 7 day threat, which I is nearly 14 days ago now.

Will sit tight.
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