Author Topic: Britannia Parking - Overstay - Plinston Retail Park, Letchworth, Herts  (Read 513 times)

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[EDIT - attached initial PCN]

Hi

Just received a notice about this, and I'm fuming since its a genuine error by the parking company:

The driver of the car was doing some decorating and went to Wickes to get some bits on 07 May
Next day 08 May they went to get a few more bits
DID NOT PARK OVERNIGHT
Now received a £100 fine with a claim that the car was parked there from 4pm on 07 May to 4pm 08 May

Additionally, the PCNis dated 14 May, but arrived today, 21st.

I can go to check the signage if needed, but the principle fact remains that overnight parking did not occur.

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« Last Edit: May 21, 2025, 03:06:01 pm by AJHertsLdn »

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Essentially you tell them they’re incompetent and you’re not going to pay.

Usually referred to here as a “double dip”.

You can appeal more politely if you want, initially anyway.

But it’s not a fine, please read https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/ and in particular if you post what you’ve received we may be able to find additional appeal points for you.

Follow the advice above, but an appeal may be:

Dear ***

Ref *****

I have received your parking notice.

The vehicle was not present for 24 hours.
Your defective ANPR system has failed to record two visits.

You have therefore accessed my details on the DVLA registered keeper database without reasonable cause.

Cancel the Notice within seven days or I will complain to the DVLA about your action.

Regards

attached the (redacted) PCN in the original post - thanks for your replies

Awesome - I love the foliage in their shots...  (Might give a clue as to why their system is 'defective')

Thanks guys

It sounds like the advice is to file an appeal on the basis of 'didn't happen' and imply that they have wrongfully obtained my data as vehicle keeper from DVLA?

Regards

Small point but I wouldn't say it's an appeal.  You are stating their allegations are misfounded and you can point to their own evidence of the foliage.

As an aside, it might be worth quoting BPA CoP 7.3 (d):

Photographic evidence must not be used by a parking operator as the basis for issuing a parking charge unless:
d) images generated by ANPR or CCTV have been subject to a manual quality control
check, including the accuracy of the timestamp and the risk of keying errors.

NOTE 1: The manual quality control check for remote ANPR and CCTV systems is
particularly important for detecting issues such as “double dipping”, where image camera
systems might have failed to accurately record each instance when a vehicle enters and
leaves controlled land, and for checking images that might have been taken other than by
a trained parking attendant



I would assert the manual checks may not have occurred...  The camera is clearly obscured and will almost certainly cause failed reads.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2025, 04:57:23 pm by JustLoveCars »

Thanks guys

Having gone through the system now, I confirm I do need to use the appeals process to dispute the charge. I've familiarised myself with their appeals portal and theres a free text box and the ability to attach files. How does this look (And should I attach evidence like a [redacted] cc statement at this stage?):

Dear Britannia

Having received your notice, I would like to report that the vehicle was not present for 24 hours on site, and you have, in fact, captured 2 separate shopping trips, usually referred to as a ‘double dip’. 

The foliage present in one of the shots may be a factor in erroneous reporting.  As I’m sure you are aware, the BPC Code of Practice requires that images generated by ANPR or CCTV have been subject to a manual quality control check, including the accuracy of the time-stamp and the risk of keying errors. I request that the manual checks are repeated, specifically to check for evidence of the vehicle leaving the park on 07 May shortly after the timestamped photo, and re-entering on 08 May at a similar time.

In summary, no overnight parking took place, the PCN issued is a result of a ‘double dip’ error on the part of Britannia Parking, and as a result, my (The registered Keeper) details have been unlawfully obtained from DVLA.  Please repeal the charge at your earliest convenience. 

By way of evidence, I enclose a screenshot of the ‘recent purchases’ page of my credit card statement, detailing purchases made at Wickes, and indeed at other stores on the same site to pint out the reality of 2 separate shopping trips.

Regards

Looks good to me.

If they reject your appeal, then it’s time to tell them to get lost and you’re not going to pay, but for now asking nicely does no harm.

Looks good to me.

If they reject your appeal, then it’s time to tell them to get lost and you’re not going to pay, but for now asking nicely does no harm.

Thanks - and appending a cc statement?  Only reason I'm hesitant is that it may imply the identity of the driver on the day of the alleged parking offence?

I’d not bother with much “evidence”, keep it in reserve in case you need it later but don’t use it now. You don’t have to prove anything.

Of course, unless you’re thinking of appealing on a different basis than the ANPR error, there’s no harm in identifying the driver.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2025, 12:00:34 pm by jfollows »

Of course, unless you’re thinking of appealing on a different basis than the ANPR error, there’s no harm in identifying the driver.
Equally, no real benefit either, so I wouldn't.

I would be more forceful with your appeal. Also, you are referencing old Code of Practice instead of the current PPSCoP. You should also make a forma complaint tot he DVLA as they have obtained your Keeper data unlawfully. Put them on notice.

Your initial appeal will be rejected, no matter what. However, it is designed to get a POPLA code for your secondary appeal. I would advise appealing with the following:

Quote
I am appealing your Parking Charge Notice (PCN) [Insert PCN Number] issued as a postal Notice to Keeper (NtK).

You have failed to perform the mandatory manual quality control checks required under Section 7.3 of the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP). Note 1 under that section makes it explicitly clear that such checks are vital for identifying situations such as “double dipping” and for correctly assigning orphan ANPR images to separate visits.

Had you fulfilled this requirement, it would have been obvious that the vehicle in question made two distinct, separate visits. Your failure to assign the orphan images correctly has resulted in a completely false allegation of overstaying.

Because of this operational failure, your request to the DVLA for the registered keeper’s data was made without reasonable cause, as required by your KADOE contract. The data was obtained unlawfully. You are therefore on notice that a complaint will be submitted to the DVLA and escalated as appropriate.

In the meantime, this appeal constitutes a formal notification that your data processing is also in breach of the UK GDPR. You had no lawful basis to obtain and continue processing the keeper’s personal data, and you are hereby instructed to delete all data relating to this PCN from your systems.

This Parking Charge Notice must be cancelled immediately. Please confirm cancellation and data erasure in writing.

Here’s how to make a DVLA complaint:

• Go to: https://contact.dvla.gov.uk/complaints
• Select: “Making a complaint or compliment about the Vehicles service you have received”
• Enter your personal details, contact details, and vehicle details
• Use the text box to summarise your complaint or insert a covering note
• You will then be able to upload a file (up to 19.5 MB) — this can be your full complaint or supporting evidence
That’s it.

The DVLA is required to record, investigate and respond to every complaint about a private parking company. If everyone who encounters a breach took the time to submit a complaint, we might finally see the DVLA take meaningful action—whether that means curtailing or removing KADOE access altogether.

For the text part of the complaint the webform could use the following:

Quote
I am submitting a formal complaint against Britannia Parking Group, a BPA AOS member with DVLA KADOE access, for unlawfully requesting and misusing my personal data in breach of both the KADOE contract and the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP).

This complaint concerns the unlawful initial request for my data. Britannia Parking failed to carry out the required manual quality control checks under Section 7.3 of the PPSCoP before applying to the DVLA for my keeper details. Had they complied with the Code, they would have identified that this was a “double dip” scenario involving orphan ANPR images that should have been assigned to separate visits. This failure meant they had no reasonable cause to request my data in the first place.

Their non-compliance with the PPSCoP invalidates their access to DVLA data and puts them in breach of their KADOE contract. I am attaching a supporting statement setting out the details and ask that the DVLA investigate this breach, together with their own responsibilities as the ultimate data controller and confirm the reference for this complaint.

Then you could upload the following as a PDF file for the formal complaint itself:

Quote
SUPPORTING STATEMENT

Complaint to DVLA – Breach of KADOE Contract and PPSCoP

Operator name: Britannia Parking
Date of PCN issue: [INSERT DATE]
Vehicle registration: [INSERT VRM]

I am submitting this complaint to report that Britannia Parking unlawfully requested and processed my personal data in breach of the KADOE contract and the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP), which governs all DVLA data access by AOS operators.

This complaint is not limited to their post-access conduct. The initial request for my keeper data was unlawful because Britannia failed to conduct the mandatory manual quality control check of their ANPR records, as required under Section 7.3 of the PPSCoP. Note 1 under this section specifically highlights the importance of these checks for identifying scenarios such as “double dipping” — where a vehicle enters and exits a site more than once but the system fails to match images correctly. The PPSCoP requires operators to manually assign orphan images before taking enforcement action.

Had Britannia Parking carried out the required manual quality control check under Section 7.3 of the PPSCoP, they would have identified that this was a multi-visit event involving orphan ANPR images. In other words, they would have had no cause of action whatsoever and therefore no justification to request my keeper data from the DVLA.

By failing to conduct this required check, Britannia Parking submitted a KADOE request without reasonable cause, thereby unlawfully obtaining my personal data. This is a direct breach of the KADOE contract and an unlawful intrusion under the UK General Data Protection Regulation (UK GDPR).

The breach does not stop there. Britannia has continued to store, use, and process my unlawfully obtained data — including sending me a PCN and subsequent correspondence. Each act of data processing constitutes a further breach of the GDPR, compounding the original misuse.

The DVLA, as the Data Controller for the data it releases under KADOE, is not a passive party. It has a statutory obligation under UK GDPR and the Data Protection Act 2018 to take enforcement action against its contractors who misuse personal data. Furthermore, because the breach flows from the DVLA’s own release of data to a non-compliant operator, I expect the DVLA to self-report this incident to the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) as a controller involved in the chain of misuse.

I request a full investigation into Britannia Parking’s unlawful request and misuse of my data, and I expect the DVLA to take all appropriate action, including sanctions under the KADOE contract and regulatory reporting to the ICO.

Please confirm receipt and provide a reference for this complaint. I am happy to provide further evidence if required.

Name: [INSERT YOUR NAME]
Date: [INSERT DATE]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Thanks - appeal filed and DVLA complaint made.  Hopefully I hear nothing while I'm on holiday next week.

Regards