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Hi
Smart parking have issued a notice to keeper fine
I am not the keeper of the vehicle but am on the insurance
I paid for my parking via ringo (have receipts to show I aid) but made a mistake and used the wrong vehicle as I was driving a relatives car
My car was broken down and I’d been added to the insurance on this one and then parked and forgotten to change the vehicle on the app
I have receipts to show I paid for parking just the wrong car
The time stamps won’t show the vehicle I paid for either and I have the licence on my ringo app too.

As I’ve paid for parking the owner hasn’t lost out as I’ve paid but just for the wrong car so can I appeal?
Or do I need to appeal something differently?

I can’t afford the fine and appreciate it’s my
Mistake with the reg number but surely they’ve not lost out as I paid so that has to count for something?

Can anyone help?

Thanks ever so much

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I believe this can be classed as a 'major keying error' and they will offer you £20 to settle.

Unfortunately, they are issuing court claims nowadays - it's up to you whether you want to battle for £20.

But at the moment the keeper is dealing with it?

£20 is better than £100! Thanks so much for replying and Thanks for the advice, do I appeal on their website and explain the mistake then and hope they offer me that?
The keeper isn’t dealing with it, do they need to?

Thanks

@clarelfranklin11... Absolutely NOT!!!!!!!!!! Ignore the advice you received about paying £20 when you don't own a penny.

That Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not compliant with PoFA 2012 which means that they cannot hold the Keeper liable for the charge. They have no idea who the driver is unless the Keeper blabs it to them, inadvertently or otherwise.

No one who receives this advice pays a penny to (not so) Smart Parking.

SO far, you have mistakenly called it a "fine" which it is not. I will give you £100 for every occurrence of the word "fine" or "penalty" or "offence" you can show me in the correspondence. As with most of the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree, you are assuming that (not so) Smart Parking are some sort of authority that can issue a "fine" when all it is is a speculative invoice from an unregulated private parking company for an alleged breach of contract by the driver.

Easy one to deal with… as long as the unknown drivers identity is not revealed. There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Instead of wasting your money, even if you are stupid enough to part with only £20, you appeal with the following, only as the Keeper:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. Smart Parking has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. Smart have no hope at IAS, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Telling people they can avoid paying anything by appealing to Smart, then appealing to the IAS, then successfully defending a court claim, is perfectly valid. Telling someone they are 'stupid' if they decide to accept the £20 keying error price (if offered), is not. Using the 'Report to Moderator' function to voice your disagreement with another poster who has not said anything factually incorrect nor broken any forum rules, is also not.
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