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Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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Thanks DWMB2 & B789 for your detailed responses.

I have submitted an appeal as suggested by B789 today and hopefully it gets cancelled.
I will respond back when i hear something (Hopefully with good news).

Regards
Samir

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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Hi there,
They have replied and surprise surprise they did not cancel the ticket.






Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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As expected. You have a choice now. Either try an IAS appeal or wait and see if/when they send a Letter of Claim (LoC). They have been warned that if they pass your details to a third party DRA they will be considered in breach of your GDPR which is something you can use later, if necessary.

If they do pass on your details, you can expect some debt collector letters which you can safely ignore. They are powerless to do anything except to try and scare you into paying. Ignore them.

If/when. They do issue a claim, it is to your advantage as a judge in the small claims track of the county court is the ultimate dispute resolution service. Any claim is easily defended.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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Thanks.
In your opinion, What do you suggest? I'm ok with either but IAS seems like a better route as it's official right?  If I go with the IAS route, do you mind helping me with the appeal writeup?

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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I'm not sure what you mean by official. The IAS is an appeal route provided by the accredited trade association of which the parking company is a member. Funded by their members, they tend to protect them, and rarely uphold appeals regardless of their merits.

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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by official i meant that the the situation is formalised with no threatening letters from bailiffs instead if simply ignoring NPM letters.

As you said the appeal is rarely upheld so i prefer the route the IAS Appeal Route.

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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You will still get “threatening” letters once the IAS reject your appeal. Whilst the letters may seem “threatening”, they are in fact, harmless. They are designed to get the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree to capitulate and pay up because they don’t understand the process and imagine that bailiffs can simply come knocking at their door.

Are you low-hanging fruit ripe for the picking?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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 :D  :D  :D
No way!! Lets fight this all the way through IAS!!

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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Should I go ahead and submit my appeal.  I can probably edit and use the writeup that I originally appealed with?  Should I include anything else?
Thanks in advance..

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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If you insist, you can show what you intend to send for critique by someone who cares enough about an IAS appeal.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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You will still get “threatening” letters once the IAS reject your appeal. Whilst the letters may seem “threatening”, they are in fact, harmless. They are designed to get the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree to capitulate and pay up because they don’t understand the process and imagine that bailiffs can simply come knocking at their door.

Are you low-hanging fruit ripe for the picking?

Hi, I was away and got back a few days ago.  Can I confirm the advice is to not appeal and ignore the threatening letters NPM will no doubt send?
Thanks

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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Can I confirm the advice is to not appeal
The advice is that appeals to the IAS rarely succeed. If you want to roll the dice with the IAS, then go for it, doing so is not detrimental to your case, but if you're busy, then you may decide it is not worth the effort. If you choose not to, then ignore the debt collectors and wait for a Letter of Claim.

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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Can I confirm the advice is to not appeal
The advice is that appeals to the IAS rarely succeed. If you want to roll the dice with the IAS, then go for it, doing so is not detrimental to your case, but if you're busy, then you may decide it is not worth the effort. If you choose not to, then ignore the debt collectors and wait for a Letter of Claim.

Thank you 🙌.  In that case I won't bother with the IAS as it seems a pointless exercise.  Regarding the letter of claim, what should I do when that arrives?

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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Thank you 🙌.  In that case I won't bother with the IAS as it seems a pointless exercise.  Regarding the letter of claim, what should I do when that arrives?

The response to an LoC is to deny any liability and demand that they provide proof of their allegation. There is a template you can use which lets them know they are not going to be dealing with low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree who are going to capitulate and pay up.

Cross that bridge, if/when it happens. Please don’t tell us about or show us any debt collector letters. They are powerless ans should be ignored. Some may be dressed up to look like an LoC but will only give you 14 days to pay. A real LoC must give you 30 days.

If/when you receive a real LoC, show us.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: 13-15 Woodgrange road, E7 - Vehicle not pre-authorised (no-e-Permit)
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Thank you 🙌.  In that case I won't bother with the IAS as it seems a pointless exercise.  Regarding the letter of claim, what should I do when that arrives?

The response to an LoC is to deny any liability and demand that they provide proof of their allegation. There is a template you can use which lets them know they are not going to be dealing with low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree who are going to capitulate and pay up.

Cross that bridge, if/when it happens. Please don’t tell us about or show us any debt collector letters. They are powerless ans should be ignored. Some may be dressed up to look like an LoC but will only give you 14 days to pay. A real LoC must give you 30 days.

If/when you receive a real LoC, show us.

Got it!  Many many thanks B789 🙌