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no i have no proof of this

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Hi all,

I’ve received a Merton Council PCN for Hartfield Road Car Park, Wimbledon and wanted to get your views on whether it is worth challenging.

The vehicle had a valid RingGo session from 15:56 to 16:56 on 15/08/2026. The driver says they realised they needed longer and tried to extend the parking by another 30 minutes in the RingGo app, and believed it had gone through.

However, it appears the extension did not actually complete. The PCN was then issued at 17:30 for:

Code 82u – Parked After The Expiry Of Paid For Time

So the PCN was issued around 34 minutes after the original session expired.

The original parking was definitely paid for and I have the RingGo receipt.

Would there be any grounds to challenge this beyond simply asking the council to exercise discretion because the driver genuinely attempted to extend the session and thought it had been successful?



PCN   https://imgpile.com/p/Ah3CMC4

Evidence https://imgpile.com/m/0GFFwMz

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Private parking tickets / Re: appeal NCP PCN
« on: August 22, 2026, 04:04:06 pm »
thanks appeal won

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Private parking tickets / appeal NCP PCN
« on: August 15, 2026, 11:42:55 am »
Hi all,
I’ve received another NCP Parking Charge Notice for the Epsom High Street car park.


https://ibb.co/hxV6WRKM

https://ibb.co/RkxGBr5m


The details are:
  • Date of incident: 25/07/2026
  • Date of sending: 06/08/2026
  • Entry: 09:18:31
  • Exit: 09:57:50
  • Reason: Parked without payment of the parking charge

Can I appeal on the following points?

1. Notice to Keeper delivered outside the 14-day POFA period
The incident was on 25/07/2026, so I believe the 14-day period ended on 08/08/2026.
The notice says it was sent on 06/08/2026. As a postal notice is presumed to be delivered on the second working day after posting, would the presumed delivery date be Monday 10/08/2026?
If so, would this mean NCP cannot rely on POFA Schedule 4 to transfer liability to the registered keeper?

2. Failure to adequately specify the relevant land
The notice only gives the location as “Epsom High Street”.
Is this sufficient for the requirement under POFA to specify the relevant land, or could this be challenged as being too vague?

3. Period of parking

The notice describes the ANPR entry and exit times as the “period of parking”.
My understanding is that ANPR only records when a vehicle enters and leaves the site and does not establish the actual period during which the vehicle was parked. Is this a valid POFA point as well?



Would these be the correct points to use for the initial appeal, or should I keep it simpler and rely mainly on the 14-day POFA issue?
Thanks.

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC PCN
« on: August 05, 2026, 09:56:15 am »
bumping

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC PCN
« on: August 02, 2026, 09:43:23 am »
Would it be a good idea to check with ukpc to see if the email was delivered?

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC PCN
« on: August 02, 2026, 08:59:55 am »
First thing that was checked. Nothing there

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC PCN
« on: August 01, 2026, 07:25:28 pm »
https://postimg.cc/235gY2cM

https://postimg.cc/BLn7qngD


after that email requesting confirmation of who the driver was, the keeper didnt hear back from them and has now received a debt collection letter. Would the next steps be to contact UKPC to confirm the outcome of the case?

The previous email said a POPLA code would be sent but not emails have been received since then.

Thanks


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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC PCN
« on: May 21, 2026, 10:46:26 pm »
hi the keeper just got this email from them. what is the next step? Im guessing i dont have to tell them who the driver is  ;D

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC PCN
« on: May 16, 2026, 12:05:46 pm »
If the Notice to Hirer was not accompanied by
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(a)a statement signed by or on behalf of the vehicle-hire firm to the effect that at the material time the vehicle was hired to a named person under a hire agreement;

(b)a copy of the hire agreement; and

(c)a copy of a statement of liability signed by the hirer under that hire agreement.
as well as a copy of the original Notice to Keeper then, if the driver is not identified, the hirer can not be liable.
Legislation at https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
Search the forum for a sample appeal on this basis.
Post it here if you’re unsure.


how is this please


I am the hirer of the vehicle and I dispute this Parking Charge Notice. I deny any liability or contractual agreement.

There will be no admission as to who was driving and no assumptions should be drawn. I am under no obligation to identify the driver and I will not be doing so.

As this is a hire vehicle, UK Parking Control can only transfer liability to me as hirer if it has fully complied with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, including paragraphs 13 and 14.

Your Notice to Hirer was not accompanied by the documents required under POFA Schedule 4, namely:

a statement signed by or on behalf of the vehicle-hire firm confirming that, at the material time, the vehicle was hired to a named person under a hire agreement;
a copy of the hire agreement; and
a copy of a statement of liability signed by the hirer under that hire agreement.

Paragraph 14 requires these documents to be provided alongside the Notice to Hirer. As they were not supplied, UK Parking Control has failed to comply with the strict requirements of POFA Schedule 4.

As a result, you cannot transfer liability to me as hirer. You may only pursue the driver, who has not been identified.

Please cancel this Parking Charge Notice.

If you reject this appeal, please provide a POPLA code and a full explanation of how you believe UK Parking Control has complied with POFA Schedule 4 paragraphs 13 and 14, including evidence that all mandatory hire documents were served with the Notice to Hirer.

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Private parking tickets / UKPC PCN
« on: May 13, 2026, 03:32:33 pm »
hello,

can this be contested?  submitting this on behalf of a friend.

the driver believed they were not in a car parking area as they were stopped for a short period by the entrance.

can this be contested?  15 min grace period?


notice sent to leasing company first, then the keeper informed them and a notice to hirer has been sent in the keepers name NOT notice to keeper. notice to hirer delivered today.

Thanks

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Private parking tickets / Re: NCP Epsom Parking Charge
« on: February 03, 2026, 09:15:08 am »
thanks all. PCN cancelled

on points 1 and 2 .

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Private parking tickets / Re: NCP Epsom Parking Charge
« on: January 27, 2026, 09:50:38 pm »
1. Failure to Specify the "Relevant Land" The Notice to Keeper (NTK) identifies the location of the alleged contravention as "Epsom High Street." However, the car park in question is not located on High Street; both the entrance and exit are situated on Station Approach. Under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), a notice must accurately specify the "relevant land" on which the vehicle was parked. By providing an incorrect location, NCP has failed to meet the strict requirements of PoFA 2012, and therefore cannot transfer liability for this charge to me, the registered keeper.

2. Non-Compliance with PoFA 2012 (Delivery Date) Furthermore, I challenge the validity of this notice regarding the timeline of service. For a notice to be PoFA-compliant where no ticket was fixed to the vehicle, it must be delivered to the keeper within 14 days of the incident. Given the date of the incident (03/01/2026) and the date of sending (14/01/2026), the notice did not arrive within the statutory 14-day window. This constitutes a further failure to meet the requirements necessary to invoke keeper liability.

3. Consideration Period and Lack of Contract The evidence provided shows a total stay of only 14 minutes. According to the BPA Code of Practice, operators must allow a sufficient "consideration period" for a driver to enter a car park, find a parking space, and read the terms and conditions on the signage to decide whether to stay. A 14-minute window is entirely consistent with a driver entering the site, finding the terms unacceptable or the site unsuitable, and subsequently exiting. No contract was ever entered into, and no parking "breach" occurred.

As NCP has failed to comply with the requirements of PoFA 2012 and the BPA Code of Practice, I request that this charge be cancelled immediately.

should i remove point 2 ?

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Private parking tickets / NCP Epsom Parking Charge
« on: January 25, 2026, 11:09:47 am »
Hi,


What can I appeal for this?

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i think this was delivered around mon 19th but i think the notice is within the 14 day period as well if im not mistaken

date of incident 3/1
date of sending 14/1

can i appeal as:

strict proof of the date of actual sending based on the requirements of section 8.1.2(e) Note 2 of the PPSCoP which states:

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The parking operator must ensure that a notice informs the recipient: that if the recipient appeals within 28 days of receiving the parking charge, the right to pay at the rate applicable when the appeal was made must stand for a further 14 days from the date (subject to 8.1.2d) they receive notification that their appeal has been rejected;

NOTE 1: Where the 14 days to pay was at the reduced rate a further 14 days should be offered to make payment at the full rate.
NOTE 2: A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered on the second working day after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose, “working day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a public holiday in England and Wales. Therefore, parking operators must retain a record of the date of posting of a notice, not simply of that notice having been generated (e.g. the date that any third-party Mail Consolidator actually put it in the postal system.)

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the is the only PCN we have.

and for the date, is it 14 working days - so should be 16/1 instead of 13/1?


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