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Non-motoring legal advice / Re: The Bunch (energy supplier) final bill
« on: June 10, 2026, 09:16:02 pm »
Sorry, Doris Stokes has sadly passed to the other side.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Likelihood on losing license - speeding ticket with 11 points
« on: June 10, 2026, 06:12:33 pm »
Sorry, Doris Stokes has passed to the other side.
It is within the gift of the court. Much will depend on the details of his arguments and how well he presents them. If he is banned, what would or could he do? The fact that he would lose his driving job does not in and of itself mean that he could not find a non-driving job. What are his ex's circumstances? The bench will want to know.
Received wisdom suggests that hardship liable to be suffered by innocent dependents carries more weight, than that which the criminal scum that brought this upon himself would suffer.
What we consider the likelihood of him keeping his licence, based on negligible information is perhaps even more pointless than the question itself.
If the court do not find that he (or others) would suffer exceptional hardship, they must ban him for 6 months. If they do, they can reduce that ban, potentially to zero. All that matters is what they bench on the day decide - unless he does not make an exceptional hardship argument, in which case we can tell you exactly how likely it is that he will get a 6 month ban.
If you/he want advice on how to present his argument, (i.e. ignore irrelevant points and evidence that relevant points), we can offer advice on his draft argument.
It is within the gift of the court. Much will depend on the details of his arguments and how well he presents them. If he is banned, what would or could he do? The fact that he would lose his driving job does not in and of itself mean that he could not find a non-driving job. What are his ex's circumstances? The bench will want to know.
Received wisdom suggests that hardship liable to be suffered by innocent dependents carries more weight, than that which the criminal scum that brought this upon himself would suffer.
What we consider the likelihood of him keeping his licence, based on negligible information is perhaps even more pointless than the question itself.
If the court do not find that he (or others) would suffer exceptional hardship, they must ban him for 6 months. If they do, they can reduce that ban, potentially to zero. All that matters is what they bench on the day decide - unless he does not make an exceptional hardship argument, in which case we can tell you exactly how likely it is that he will get a 6 month ban.
If you/he want advice on how to present his argument, (i.e. ignore irrelevant points and evidence that relevant points), we can offer advice on his draft argument.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Can tree branches affect camera accuracy?
« on: June 09, 2026, 02:02:09 pm »
Possibly. It depends.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / MOVED: England/London – Need solicitor for police stop, car seizure, refused blood test
« on: June 08, 2026, 12:14:01 pm »5
Non-motoring legal advice / Re: England/London – Need solicitor for police stop, car seizure, refused blood test
« on: June 08, 2026, 12:13:34 pm »
The OP clearly has no intention of giving us all the facts. He is not seeking legal advice from us, but merely asking for advice as to what flavour of lawyer he should instruct.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Urgent Advice - Can I ask for a Motorway SACourse rather than points (only 2 days to respond)
« on: June 07, 2026, 11:29:09 pm »
Struggling to see the point of your post.
Of course you can ask. Whether or not they will tell you to f**k off is down to them. and likely to depend on whether or not they do a separate motorway course. The only way to be sure is to phone them and ask.
Of course you can ask. Whether or not they will tell you to f**k off is down to them. and likely to depend on whether or not they do a separate motorway course. The only way to be sure is to phone them and ask.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Marginal Speeding Offence - Accuracy of Equipment
« on: June 04, 2026, 12:55:14 pm »This is obviously a very marginal offence as, using the 10% + 2mph rule the minimum speed you can get prosecuted for is 57.0mph.
Please don't lie to us.
As explained in the "READ THIS FIRST" post (which you clearly didn't), not only are the guidelines merely that (guidelines), but the purpose is to enable the court to be certain that the motorist was actually exceeding the speed limit. The guidelines apply to the recorded speed, not the recorded speed minus some theoretical tolerance.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
« on: June 03, 2026, 11:33:02 pm »The form I returned identifying myself as the driver included my full name, date of birth and driving licence number
I preferred the original Groundhog Day with Bill Murray and Andie MacDowell.
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(copy attached above).
Really?
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I do not recall providing any further information when making payment
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Does that strengthen the argument that the identification requirement had already been satisfied?
Not by any conventionally understood meaning of the word "strengthen".
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but my understanding was that the Fixed Penalty Office already held those details from the completed form.
What "Fixed Penalty Office" would that be?
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My address was also already printed on the form. I then paid the £100 fixed penalty. Does that make any difference to whether the identification requirement was satisfied?
No
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
« on: June 03, 2026, 10:05:00 pm »
You can ask. The magistrates will be *very* familiar with people appearing before them for this reason.
Interestingly (I don't get invited to dinner parties very much), what the law says about the identification information is that your name, date of birth and licence number must be provided to the appropriate person. If you hold a UK driving licence, your date of birth is part of your licence number.
The appropriate person for the purposes of identification information is the Fixed Penalty Clerk, whereas the appropriate person for the purpose of paying the fixed penalty is also the Fixed Penalty Clerk. If you provided your name, date of birth and licence number when you paid the fixed penalty, that it would seem that you had satisfied the legal requirement, and any prosecution would be unlawful.
North of the border, Polis Scotland don't purport to issue a separate requirement - you provide the details when you make payment and that is the end of it.
Interestingly (I don't get invited to dinner parties very much), what the law says about the identification information is that your name, date of birth and licence number must be provided to the appropriate person. If you hold a UK driving licence, your date of birth is part of your licence number.
The appropriate person for the purposes of identification information is the Fixed Penalty Clerk, whereas the appropriate person for the purpose of paying the fixed penalty is also the Fixed Penalty Clerk. If you provided your name, date of birth and licence number when you paid the fixed penalty, that it would seem that you had satisfied the legal requirement, and any prosecution would be unlawful.
North of the border, Polis Scotland don't purport to issue a separate requirement - you provide the details when you make payment and that is the end of it.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
« on: June 03, 2026, 07:02:28 pm »11
Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
« on: June 03, 2026, 05:01:55 pm »
Have updated the "READ THIS FIRST" post.
N.B. Your timeline is gibberish.
N.B. Your timeline is gibberish.
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The Flame Pit / Re: AI Phone & seat belt cameras - wearing dark clothing
« on: June 03, 2026, 07:23:56 am »
How many 'r' in 'strawberry'?
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Work for a private ambulance company 25 in a 20
« on: June 03, 2026, 01:14:39 am »
As you are [presumably] not the RK, the 14 day rule does not apply to the NIP addressed to you. There is no time limit for issuing the s. 172 requirement to name the driver, other than that any prosecution for the speeding offence would need to be instigated within 6 months of the date of offence.
Depending on who the RK is (many company vehicles are leased, and a finance company is actually the RK) or how long the chain is, and how long the various links took to respond, the timing of your notice could be perfectly normal, or it could be the result of shenanigans.
Ignoring that your NIP is not the one required by law, the required details in the NIP (which do not include the colour of the vehicle) are "merely directory" - which means that if an error has no bearing on your ability to identify and recall the incident in question, it does not invalidate the NIP.
How wrong is the spelling of your name. Received wisdom suggests that if it is clearly intended for you, that is close enough.
As you are presumably not the person keeping the vehicle, your obligation in respect of the notice is to provide any information that is in your power to give and that might lead to the identification of the driver.
Depending on who the RK is (many company vehicles are leased, and a finance company is actually the RK) or how long the chain is, and how long the various links took to respond, the timing of your notice could be perfectly normal, or it could be the result of shenanigans.
Ignoring that your NIP is not the one required by law, the required details in the NIP (which do not include the colour of the vehicle) are "merely directory" - which means that if an error has no bearing on your ability to identify and recall the incident in question, it does not invalidate the NIP.
How wrong is the spelling of your name. Received wisdom suggests that if it is clearly intended for you, that is close enough.
As you are presumably not the person keeping the vehicle, your obligation in respect of the notice is to provide any information that is in your power to give and that might lead to the identification of the driver.
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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP red light A240
« on: June 02, 2026, 06:48:59 pm »Just received an NIP as a keeper and I'm still trying to understand what the driver did wrong to trigger the camera.
Whilst the proving who was driving is an essential element of proving the red light offence, the penalty for failing to name the driver is 6 points and a hefty fine, so the obfuscation appropriate to private parking is mostly pointless as regards minor criminal motoring offences.
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Offence: Drive on road other than motorway, fail comply with red/green arrow/lane closure light signals - automatic equipment.
Location: A240 Kingston Rd j/w Jubilee Way N/B KT4 (5020).
Recorded time into Red: 1 seconds.
Whilst the wording of the NIP is atrocious insofar as they appear to have taken the view that specifying the nature of the offence is variously far too much like hard work and not their problem, the 1 second into red, the photos and the rest of your post suggest that the error is not fatal.
The first photo is clearly a zoomed in copy of the second photo - whether to make the VRM easier to read, or to give the best chance of identifying the driver.
If, as you claim, the blue Audi had already cleared the stop line in the second photo, then there is no evidence of the offence being committed.
However, as explained above, you claim is substantially at odds with the evidence you purport to have based it on.
When dealing with prosecution evidence, or evidence that will be in the prosecution's possession, it is a complete waste of everyone's time to lie about what it shows.
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The Flame Pit / Re: Endemic: Drivers over speed when you change lane
« on: May 30, 2026, 07:46:42 pm »
Cool story bro.