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Felics

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I received a PCN letter from Redbridge Council dated 20-11-2024. I want to appeal this PCN.

I had basically arrived at the Newbury Park Children Play Centre at 1.20PM for a session with my toddler and stayed there for an hour before we left at 2.30PM.

I had parked on the road you see me turning from. I did not even see the sign as it right at the junction (not an excuse I know) but it is literally 1 minute after the restriction starts!

Ground for appeal?

I have read a few threads and don't think any of these would apply:

1. Restricted View
2. Vague locations

I don't know what grounds I have if any?

I have attached the video too and the location (although the Maps location is old and doesnt have the picture of the r

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxWA1nxL-Cg

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Hello! Plenty of grounds re signage. What is on the blue plate?

Please screenshot all pages presented AS IF to make a representation and report back. There will be a page with grounds not allowed and another one later which limits to one ground. HCA has also made an important point about the PCN.
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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Hello! Plenty of grounds re signage. What is on the blue plate?

Please screenshot all pages presented AS IF to make a representation and report back. There will be a page with grounds not allowed and another one later which limits to one ground. HCA has also made an important point about the PCN.

I will drive past and get a picture of the blue plate later today.

The above two images are all the pages I received.

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Sorry as I meant the website pages.
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899
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Website pages added below:






Will add picture of Blue sign later today.

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See attached image.


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The bottom plate is proscribed. Please e mail as I have represented you in the past I recall. Havering bus lane?

We need to screenshot all pages of the reps. pages. AS IF to challenge.

I have a live case re the term time issue to be heard shortly.
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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E mail sent. Hold fire.
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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The bottom plate is proscribed. Please e mail as I have represented you in the past I recall. Havering bus lane?

We need to screenshot all pages of the reps. pages. AS IF to challenge.

I have a live case re the term time issue to be heard shortly.

Won.  224043551A. I am taking care of this case. I will draft a representation but we need all pages of their website.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2024, 08:53:37 pm by Hippocrates »
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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Dear Redbridge

The contravention did not occur because:

1.   The signage pertaining to term time is proscribed and there are no warning signs.
2.   Your website as per the attached screenshots fetters discretion and limits to one ground of representation which flies in the face of the law and the PCN thereby causing confusion.

In light of the above, please cancel.

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I would do this asap as they have a nasty habit of sending out a charge certificate before the law allows them to do so. 19th is the deadline but please do it no later than tomorrow.
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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Please can you confirm if this worked? I had no idea what term time was and it was too late once I'd past the sign I breaked immediately but it was too late for the fine. It was also 15:55 on the camera but my car said 16:00

I've been away and come home later than the 14 days to pay the reduced fine so am looking at £130 fine. How am I supposed to now when term time is? So confusing!

Please help

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Please can you confirm if this worked? I had no idea what term time was and it was too late once I'd past the sign I breaked immediately but it was too late for the fine. It was also 15:55 on the camera but my car said 16:00

I've been away and come home later than the 14 days to pay the reduced fine so am looking at £130 fine. How am I supposed to now when term time is? So confusing!

Please help


You will need to start your own thread. Please to have  aread of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

and post up on yr own thread a brief account of the circumstances;  all sides of the PCN (redact only yr name & address - leave everything else in), with a GSV link to the location. Also get a copy of the Council photos and video.

'term-time' is not an approved variant on a sign.

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Just had the hearing with Hippocrates present.

Won!

Based on insufficient signage.

Great result and thanks again to Hippocrates for all his help.

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My absolute pleasure sir as ever.  ;D
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899