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Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
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Thank all - all I can seem to get into is the evidence of / representation etc section.
However you may recall I made representation back in November and got confirmation of receipt from them by email :

Thank you for your correspondence, your reference number is: Wxxxx

Please keep this for your records, we aim to respond to your correspondence by post or email, within 56 days. In the meantime, your case is on hold.

London Borough of Havering

01708 432787

Do you still need me to screen shot what I am seeing today thanks
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Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
« Reply #46 on: »
So we wait.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
« Reply #47 on: »
thank you - I thought as much thanks again
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Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
« Reply #48 on: »
I won one recently. We just follow the process.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
« Reply #49 on: »
ok thank you - good to know. Well done on another won case. Have a great weekend
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Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
« Reply #50 on: »
@Dukewood Any update as I won two yesterday?
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
« Reply #51 on: »
Hi  congrats on those wins.

No I haven't heard a thing from them. I was kind of hoping they may have realised they will lose these and dropped it but sounds like that isn't the case. I do slightly worry they may say they have contacted me and I haven't responded but that is not the case. Would I hear from Havering now or direcly from the tribunal please ? Would you let sleeping dogs lie or chase up and if so who with please ?

Thank you
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Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
« Reply #52 on: »
Can you check the status on their website?
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
« Reply #53 on: »
Thanks - the only thing I seem to be able to check ( unless I am looking in the wrong place perhaps ) is the video evidence link. That still simply has the status as "Pay" wtih the £130

And the last communication I had from them was this email in ealry November 24:

Thank you for your correspondence, your reference number is: W34*****

Please keep this for your records, we aim to respond to your correspondence by post or email, within 56 days. In the meantime, your case is on hold.

London Borough of Havering

01708 432787
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« Reply #54 on: »
@Dukewood Well, I would let sleeping dogs lie as they are now beyond "unconscionable delay" territory. BTW they seem to attend all hearings these days for many contraventions. I wonder why.  :D
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
« Reply #55 on: »
Thanks I am inclined to agree.
My only slight anxiety is if they suddenly claim they sent something etc but given I have that last email hopefully I should be ok. Odd if they are following up others that they didn't take it forward though. Seems like even though they are attending you are still thankfully able to win the case
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« Reply #56 on: »
They are administratively challenged at present. In one of the ones won the other day they were at sea in this regard. Keep checking the website.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
« Reply #57 on: »
ok thanks - I'll keep an eye out and ofcourse update should I get any communication from them.

Thanks again
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Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
« Reply #58 on: »
Representation Reason
A -  The alleged Contravention did not occur
B I was not the owner of the vehicle at the time of contravention
-  I had sold the vehicle before that date
-  I had bought the vehicle after that date
-  I have never owned that vehicle
C -  The vehicle was taken without my consent
D -  We are a hire firm and have supplied details
E -  The Penalty Charge exceeds the relevant amount
F -  There has been a procedural impropriety by the Enforcement Authority
G -  The traffic order contravened is invalid
H -  The Notice should not have been served because the Penalty Charge had already been paid
I -  Other

As usual. Please screenshot this.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Havering Bus Lane - New Road / Phillip Road RM13
« Reply #59 on: »
Quote from: Hippocrates on April 24, 2025, 12:14:00 pm
They are administratively challenged at present. In one of the ones won the other day they were at sea in this regard. Keep checking the website.
Havering made a rod for their own back when they decided not to re-offer the discount when rejecting informal reps.

They decided that ignoring the recommendation in the Statutory Guidance to re-offer the discount, and stating that they would not follow the guidance, could be construed as "having regard to", their duty under the TMA 2004.
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