Author Topic: The roles of the Chief Adjudicator, London Councils, who appoints all the adjudicators. Complaints procedures.  (Read 4395 times)

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I should really know all this, and do in part; but, it seems to me that anomalies exist:

1. If one wishes to make a complaint about the conduct - not the decision - of an adjudicator, the Chief Adjudicator deals with it.

2. If one wants to complain about the conduct of the Chief Adjudicator - not his decision - Mr Stephen Boon who works for London Councils deals with it in the first instance; but, guess what, another adjudicator deals with it.  A man called Nick Lester used to deal with such.

Food for thought as I am seriously considering the latter.

And I am going to request a meeting with the Justice Secretary re the fiasco of the incompetence of the Tribunal for 18 years vis a vis the bus lane fiasco when adjudicators refused appeals without understanding the legislation! And, it has to be said, they failed to note that many, if not all, VCA certificates produced (if any) would have failed the test! 

For Gawd's sake as it is Easter.

I must add that, the other day, I had to educate one adjudicator about the law.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Uab63buwUh-wfCy2LJpBi028uWzHIekb/view

One of our members observed.  philou.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/waltham-forest-code-34-being-in-a-bus-lane/msg18547/#msg18547

At the beginning of each appeal hearing, the appellant is informed that the adjudicator is independent. Or s/he should say so.
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At the beginning of each appeal hearing, the appellant is informed that the adjudicator is independent. Or s/he should say so.
I am very grateful to the 99% of adjudicators who don't insist on giving me their standard blurb at the beginning of each hearing, it would be a massive waste of time.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

I think you drew this to my attention Philip so that I can be the voice of reason.

I nearly complained about an adjudicator once but held off doing so and just kept on sucking up the refusals.
I sent one for Review, was asked how the decision went so wrong and my response was that it was a statistical anomaly.

From then on, for a while, all of my Appeals were heard by Mr Chan, although not often now he has the place to run so doesn't have the time for many in person appeals.

I wonder what you might achieve by complaining, probably just find yourself barred for being disruptive?
Remember that there is a tape of your hearing so if you didn't stay as cool as a cucumber, it is easily shown.

Some advice: when I started my blog about Barnet Council and to fight PCns I decided that no matter what I wasn't going to let them get to me as one man against a monster is an unequal fight and I didn't want to send myself bonkers.

Keep your pwder dry, reconcile yourself to losing sometimes and smile.

The Justice Secretary might think the so-called experts aren't that hot themselves, having failed to notice a wholesale departure from the law for as long as the councils did.
I help you pro bono (for free). I now ask that a £40 donation is made to the North London Hospice before I take over your case. I have an 85% success rate across 2,000 PCNs but some PCNs can't be beaten and I will tell you if your case looks hopeless before asking you to donate.

"We are all human"!  I am talking about conduct not decisions.  I will speak with you privately. I am holding fire at present.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

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If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

@mrmustard: I have thought matters through and held back. I would just add though that conduct does affect one's own ability to argue one's case.  Like you, we have met at least 25 in our time - you probably all of them. And each is different. Anyway, The Three Musketeers live on. I guess I am the portly one.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2024, 11:59:03 am by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

The transport and environment committee approve adjudicators based on the recommendation of the chief adjudicator. This includes reappointments.

Food for thought.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

So, this is the thing, as they say: if you want to complain about an adjudicator's conduct, the Chief Adjudicator will deal with it. 

Are you sitting comfortably?

If you want to complain about the Chief Adjudicator's conduct, another adjudicator will deal with it via Mr Stephen Boon who is an officer at London Councils.

I used to be a teacher. I may as well have allowed the pupils to mark their own peers' homework.

Do they allow Q into the hearings?  If so, I can grab hold of him at Vauxhall Station, sedate him and bring him along. ;D  ;)
« Last Edit: May 15, 2024, 08:45:56 pm by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Missive sent to my MP and Mr Chan.  I now wear body armour.  :o
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Should one/does one have the legal right to obtain a recording of the hearing? Or to make an appointment to listen to it? Clearly, a transcript is limited because it does not show how things were said (voice intonation etc.) and the emotional reactions between the participants? There is also the issue of fairness as the Tribunal recording is available to whomsoever, and without having to pay for a transcript.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2025, 12:20:03 pm by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Can somebody answer this simple question?:

Is the Chief Adjudicator a Judicial Office holder or not?  ::)
« Last Edit: August 19, 2025, 03:22:16 pm by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

A Road User Charging Adjudicator is, yes.
I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.

A Road User Charging Adjudicator is, yes.

And an ETA adjudicator? @Southpaw82 @cp8759 @mrmustard
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.

Environment and Traffic Adjudicators

The Environment and Traffic Adjudicators constitute a tribunal and are independent of the enforcement authorities. Cases are decided by independent adjudicators, all of whom are lawyers of at least 5 years standing.

The Environment and Traffic Adjudicators decide appeals relating to Penalty Charge Notices issued by Transport for London and the London local authorities known as the 'enforcement authority' (EA) for parking, bus lane, moving traffic, lorry control, littering and waste receptacle contraventions.

Appeals are usually decided by a single adjudicator who will consider all the evidence, make findings of fact and apply the law.


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https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Annual%20report%20202324.pdf
« Last Edit: August 20, 2025, 09:26:15 pm by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Can’t see them listed.
I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.