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I should really know all this, and do in part; but, it seems to me that anomalies exist:

1. If one wishes to make a complaint about the conduct - not the decision - of an adjudicator, the Chief Adjudicator deals with it.

2. If one wants to complain about the conduct of the Chief Adjudicator - not his decision - Mr Stephen Boon who works for London Councils deals with it in the first instance; but, guess what, another adjudicator deals with it.  A man called Nick Lester used to deal with such.

Food for thought as I am seriously considering the latter.

And I am going to request a meeting with the Justice Secretary re the fiasco of the incompetence of the Tribunal for 18 years vis a vis the bus lane fiasco when adjudicators refused appeals without understanding the legislation! And, it has to be said, they failed to note that many, if not all, VCA certificates produced (if any) would have failed the test! 

For Gawd's sake as it is Easter.

I must add that, the other day, I had to educate one adjudicator about the law.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Uab63buwUh-wfCy2LJpBi028uWzHIekb/view

One of our members observed.  philou.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/waltham-forest-code-34-being-in-a-bus-lane/msg18547/#msg18547

At the beginning of each appeal hearing, the appellant is informed that the adjudicator is independent. Or s/he should say so.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2024, 10:50:08 pm by Hippocrates »
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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At the beginning of each appeal hearing, the appellant is informed that the adjudicator is independent. Or s/he should say so.
I am very grateful to the 99% of adjudicators who don't insist on giving me their standard blurb at the beginning of each hearing, it would be a massive waste of time.
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I am not a lawyer.

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I think you drew this to my attention Philip so that I can be the voice of reason.

I nearly complained about an adjudicator once but held off doing so and just kept on sucking up the refusals.
I sent one for Review, was asked how the decision went so wrong and my response was that it was a statistical anomaly.

From then on, for a while, all of my Appeals were heard by Mr Chan, although not often now he has the place to run so doesn't have the time for many in person appeals.

I wonder what you might achieve by complaining, probably just find yourself barred for being disruptive?
Remember that there is a tape of your hearing so if you didn't stay as cool as a cucumber, it is easily shown.

Some advice: when I started my blog about Barnet Council and to fight PCns I decided that no matter what I wasn't going to let them get to me as one man against a monster is an unequal fight and I didn't want to send myself bonkers.

Keep your pwder dry, reconcile yourself to losing sometimes and smile.

The Justice Secretary might think the so-called experts aren't that hot themselves, having failed to notice a wholesale departure from the law for as long as the councils did.
I help you pro bono (for free). I only ask that a donation is made to the North London Hospice if you can afford it and if you win. I have an 85% success rate across 2,000 PCNs but some PCNs can't be beaten and I will tell you if your case looks hopeless.

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"We are all human"!  I am talking about conduct not decisions.  I will speak with you privately. I am holding fire at present.
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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@mrmustard: I have thought matters through and held back. I would just add though that conduct does affect one's own ability to argue one's case.  Like you, we have met at least 25 in our time - you probably all of them. And each is different. Anyway, The Three Musketeers live on. I guess I am the portly one.
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There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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The transport and environment committee approve adjudicators based on the recommendation of the chief adjudicator. This includes reappointments.

Food for thought.
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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