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I know of a person that has been through mediation with one of the adjudication services offered by Excel Parking Services and have also read the post dated 23rd October 2024 from A.N.OTHER regarding the same site.

The person I have spoken with, is going to check, but believes they have received a letter of claim from EPS for alleged contraventions that occurred in respect of this nonsense 5 minute rule they try on.

They have been through a mediation but could not recall whether or not it was IAS or one of the other biased services available for these operators.  They will check later and I have asked them to post up in the hope that you can help them.

I've told them not to hold their breath now that it appears to have gone this far but I am hoping that until Excel place it before a court that hope is not completely lost.

They have been approached by some TV programmes about their experience so I have advised them to sit tight for now until they get advice from this excellent resource. I fear that a TV presenter asking a seemingly innocent question could potentially cause some issue further down the line.

They have retained all documentation and proof of payments for these PCN's which were early 2023!

They have also already paid one PCN to 'get them off their back'.  Maybe if it goes to court the judge may award a refund too...  :D

Just trying to get some preliminary advice as to what they should post up with some many PCN's issued.

I've advised them to read the necessary guidelines prior to posting too.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2024, 02:49:43 pm by Hroogar »

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Is this person Ms. Hudson? Woman's £1,906 bill over five-minute parking rule

We'll need to know detail of the case - as a starting point, exactly what stage of the process they are up to. Ideally, they should provide a timeline, detailing exactly what they received when, with exactly dates, and any correspondence they sent, again with dates. If their argument is that they paid, but just paid outside of the 5 minutes Excel allow, they should also confirm to us that they have proof of payment for each parking session they received a PCN for, and that their payment covered the duration of the parking period covered by the PCN.

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This has been passed on to the party concerned and I've also PM'd you.

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They'll never get a refund for the first PCN they paid. Paying it is an admission of liability and weakens their otherwise good case for defending.

Any "mediation" they may have been through prior to receiving an actual N1SDT Claim Form from the CNBC is unlikely to be anything official. It will only have been an appeal to the kangaroo court that is the IAS which is anything but "independent".

The only way that this will be concluded is through the only truly independent dispute resolution service, the small claims track of the county court. WE can advise and provide templates or even bespoke defences against scammers such as Excel or their sister company VCS.

The 5 minute rule that was mentioned and has recently been in the press, is an unenforceable "penalty" in contract law. There is ample defence in that alone but if you include the Consumer Rights Act 2015, it becomes even stronger.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Any "mediation" they may have been through prior to receiving an actual N1SDT Claim Form from the CNBC is unlikely to be anything official.
For clarity, this is the case I referred to above - the news article suggests a claim form has been received. We need to see exactly what stage we're up to here.

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Is this person Ms. Hudson? Woman's £1,906 bill over five-minute parking rule
No, Ms. Hudson is now legally represented off-forum.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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Just trying to get some preliminary advice as to what they should post up with some many PCN's issued.
As I understand it DWMB2 has written everything you need to know in the PPC guide.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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Is this person Ms. Hudson? Woman's £1,906 bill over five-minute parking rule
No, Ms. Hudson is now legally represented off-forum.

Hopefully by Mr Jackson Yamba at Contestor Legal.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.

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To save me searching, is Mr Yamba the poacher turned gamekeeper who knew that most of the PPC PoCs were bollox because he wrote them?
I am responsible for the accuracy of the information I post, not your ability to comprehend it.

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That's the one, if memory serves.

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He’s the one. If you enjoy a bit of Schadenfreude, have a read of the “Blog” on the Contestor Legal website.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Is this person Ms. Hudson? Woman's £1,906 bill over five-minute parking rule
No, Ms. Hudson is now legally represented off-forum.

By yourself or someone else.

I reached out to advise her to post here and she hasn’t even had the decency to let me know.

Bizarre behaviour if I’m being honest.

I think she took initial advice off a FaceBook called Excel Parking & Vehicle Control Services.

I suspect she got some bad advice off there and is now where she is because of that.

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Any "mediation" they may have been through prior to receiving an actual N1SDT Claim Form from the CNBC is unlikely to be anything official.
For clarity, this is the case I referred to above - the news article suggests a claim form has been received. We need to see exactly what stage we're up to here.

As it turns out, watching the BBC East Midlands clip the other day it was HMCTS mediation. You can see it at the end of the article on her laptop.

I assumed, wrongly, that it was be IAS.

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He’s the one. If you enjoy a bit of Schadenfreude, have a read of the “Blog” on the Contestor Legal website.


The blog which has a note:  This page is using preview images from Getty Images. Please purchase them to remove the watermark.

A tad sketchy?