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Question over legality of YBJ design
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Hello All,

Firstly, I must say I haven't been caught by this box...but I live locally and a LOT of people have. The local opposition councillors are trying to get the YBJ scrapped (never going to happen!), but I believe the design & placement are incorrect so we may be able to get it fixed & I thought I should ask some of you experts for your opinion. The box is AI camera enforced by Royal Borough of Greenwich.

The YBJ in question is at the junction of Green Lane and william Barefoot Drive, SE9. It is 90m south from a major juntion on the A20 Sidcup Road and the main purpose is to aid those turning right into WBD and therefore not back-up onto the A20 jct. I therefore believe the box to be justified, but incorrect.

WBD at the jct with Green Lane has a large "central reservation" and the 2-lane entry to & 2-lane exit from WBD are fully separated. The issue is that the YBJ completely covers both sections of the jct and people heading north on GL are regularly being caught in the box when queueing for the A20 lights and someone pulls out in front of them from WBD. Because the box is so long, they legitimately enter the box with a clear exit, but get blocked by the vehicle pulling out from WBD.

Image 1 shows the full extent of the box. I believe the bottom half to be correct, but sections 1 & 2 are the problem. There is an argument that section 1 could be retained to make it easier for those turning right out of WBD (yes, I know the right turn rule doesn't apply here), but I believe the entire top half should only ever be marked up as "Keep Clear" in the hope that some people leave space to allow for some movement out of WBD.

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So...1. Is the YBJ in its current form legal and enforceable?
2. What would be your suggested change?

Thanks.

Edited due to the picture embedding not working!
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