Free Traffic Legal Advice

I know this is a UK website, but people here are very knowledgeable and have helped me in the past, so I hope you can help.<br>

<br>I was driving into Stuttgart seeing multiple signage about 80kmh for cars and 60kmh for trucks, plus signs about low emission zones, in addition to the direction signage that I was looking for. I never saw any lower speed limits signs at the time. Reviewing the dashcam video I see that there was a 60 sign at the start of a tunnel and reminder on a sharp curve, and for the second ticket there was an 80/60 sign followed by a 60 sign, then almost immediately a 50 and immediately afterwards a low emission zone sign. And yes I was going the alleged speed. (attached are both NIPs redacted)

<br><br>The second offence is a simple EUR 40 fine so its easy to pay, but for the first one there's no information about payment.

<br><br>Does this mean I have to go to court? Is it worth filing a defence on the basis of confusing signage? What is the likely fine? Is it worth combining both tickets into a single case?

I cannot get points on my licence as Switzerland does not have a points system, but the Swiss will enforce EU fines. If the fine is going to be large do I need a lawyer?

<br><br>PS: If this belongs in the Flame Pit because it's non-UK then please feel free to move it.

There is no mention of payment, but at this stage it seems to resemble what we would receive in the UK of a combined NIP/S.172 letting you know the nature of the offence and an invitation to supply/correct your details. The next step will be communicated to you after.

https://i.imgur.com/bWNHEmC.png

The above image is from Google Translate. I cannot confirm the accuracy in its translation.

Edit, reading that again it is almost a combined NIP/SJPN as it seems you have the chance to make representations via the form.

The op needs to consult Swiss/German motoring clubs/forums.

Thanks I'll see if I can find anything that I can understand on TCS's and ADAC's websites (at least TCS will have French)

Quote from: ojnab on April 02, 2025, 07:46:13 am

Thanks I'll see if I can find anything that I can understand on TCS's and ADAC's websites (at least TCS will have French)

So I found this by asking on expat FB group
German traffic fine calculator

It says that the fine is only going to be about EUR 150-180 and possibly banned from driving within Germany for a month.

There is a time limit for payment/reply which you seem to have exceeded if you haven't paid or replied yet.

It seems the Swiss have a slightly better sense of humour than the German polizei!