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please advise as my daughter had stress and anxiety due to personal issue and took the red light is there any ground of appeal
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There is nothing to appeal. At this stage all they are requesting the name of the driver. Once that has been established they will most likely offer a conditional offer of a fixed penalty (3 points and £100). The named driver either accepts that or lets it go to court. At court they would could plead not guilty and defend the case. Nothing you have posted would appear to be a viable defence. Being stressed suggests that they should not have been driving, it won't help at court.
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Passing the signal almost six seconds after it had turned red makes it likely that the police will not offer a fixed penalty but instead see the matter prosecuted in court. But it's difficult to say because as far as I know, unlike with speeding, there are no published guidelines for the enforcement of red light offences.
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Quote from: NewJudge on September 08, 2025, 09:13:09 am
Passing the signal almost six seconds after it had turned red makes it likely that the police will not offer a fixed penalty but instead see the matter prosecuted in court.
Good point, missed that.
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Hi All thanks for your reply it's says on the letter I may be eligible for a course will they offer me that ?
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Given it was your daughter apparently driving, it seems unlikely you will be offered a course...
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And as has been pointed out, being nearly 6 seconds into red would see it being referred to court, so a course is unlikely.
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From personal experience only a few years ago,

I was 0.4s into the red. Police said it was 3s. I had to send my Dashcam video footage and use an add-on with VLC media player and then Ice cream screen recording software to prove that it was 0.4s. I even had to buy a blank DVD and a DVD ROM on my PC to burn the footage and post to them.

Courses are at the Force's discretion and you cannpt demand to have it!
You will have 3 options :
- Go to court with a solicitor ( which costs ££ ) and plead not guilty and fight
- Plead guilty and part with 1 week's pay
- Plead guilty and go to court and accept 3 points and a £100 fine

I chose option 3.. my insurance went up and legally it expires after 3 years but insurance companies want you to declare for 4 years.

And, thank you to the great team here for helping me out.
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Quote from: Etihad on September 20, 2025, 03:14:55 am
legally it expires after 3 years but insurance companies want you to declare for 4 years.
Not exactly. 3 years is the rolling period used for potential totting to 12 points, which results in a ban. Points remain on your licence for 4 years. Insurance usually want 5 years of points history. 5 years is the period after which under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act the offence becomes spent, so does not have to be declared. There are exceptions to this for serious offences.
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