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So I'm back for the 1st time in an Age.  Certainly before PePiPo closed down.

So caught 42/30 Average speed Camera at the infamous Burton Road Measham south Derbyshire.  East bound 8.10 am.  Never driven on it before  Semi Rural road that you would bet was at least 40 mph.  not any more..   The camera location a 500 yard trap that drops from a 50 to a 30.  Its been reported that camera has the reputation of catching more people than any other camera in Britain.  Cannot believe there not a post on it already..   I'm happy to incriminate myself  and i know that's what you will advise as ill get a course most probably,  Been good for years.    but i may have found a flaw and would like an expert opinion on it.

On checking the collaboration certificate freely available on the Leicester Police site  the wording reads All parts and components used in Device Serial Number: E1202385036

Yet on the NIP the Camera Serial number reads SB0510170478.   This number does not appear on the Collaboration Cert anywhere nor does the number on the Certificate appear on the NIP?     You would of though the serial number on the Cert would match the serial number of the camera on the NIP  How can you cross reference the two otherwise and formulate a defense?

Like i say a small anomaly but one i thought to pursue and register on here.  What do you think.

So what's the point in providing Collaboration Certs then? surely they would be included in any Evidence pack to prosecute?  Its a valid point that the serial number on the NIP pertaining to the Camera does not cross reference to any collaboration certificate for that very camera..

Just as a point of interest, Measham is actually in North West Leicestershire. It'd be a bit unfortunate to make a basic error such as the wrong County when trying to formulate a defence, if any.

I note that it is an average speed camera set up so the serial number of the system most probably is different to any serial number allocated to individual cameras. Is it possible that the NIP refers to the system serial number whilst the calibration certificates relate to the individual cameras, or even the other way round?

Cameras have been there for at least 7 years from what I can find.

We are here to provide advice, not to debate the advice with you.

42 in a 30 limit is the top end of the guidelines for an SAC (as explained in the cunningly hidden "READ THIS FIRST" sticky at the top of this forum).

Maybe the poster could elaborate on his point that collaboration certificates are not legally required then?  i know the ranges of Course v Points. I fully read the obvious " READ THIS FIRST"   it was the same on PiPEPO that wasn't my reason of posting.  it was to get comments on the specific points on the Camera v Cert and if the anomaly was something worth pursuing.

There's more than one camera to run an average speed check.

There's two i think. in a 500 yard trap. just would of though the Collaboration Cert would pertain to the Camera Serial No on the NIP

i know the ranges of Course v Points. I fully read the obvious " READ THIS FIRST"   it was the same on PiPEPO that wasn't my reason of posting.

My bad, I skimmed your OP and presumably read your "probably" as a question, rather than an "all things being equal".

Maybe the poster could elaborate on his point that collaboration certificates are not legally required then?

However...

He could. He appears not to have done so. You asked for free legal advice. He gave you accurate legal advice. He appears to be acting under the misapprehension that the purpose of the forum is to provide accurate and meaningful advice in response to the questions asked, rather than to justify his reasoning, or engage in some kind of debate either to enable him to persuade you that he is correct or enable you the opportunity to show him that he is correct. Leave it with me, I'll be having words with him.

Thanks all for your comments all taken onboard.  Back in the day there was a NIP wizard to upload,  to weed out obvious floors,  Vague Locust was it? date/timing ranges etc.   I spotted what i thought was a anomaly with Camera collab information, got excited and asked on here for opinions.  Ill incriminate myself Forthwith.... Cheers.