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Re: VCS - Parked after expiry time - Powis Car Park, Woolwich
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Thanks for the details, I've now received the N180 form. Just a quick question, should I leave the mediation section blank?

Re: VCS - Parked after expiry time - Powis Car Park, Woolwich
« Reply #31 on: »
Thanks for the details, I've now received the N180 form. Just a quick question, should I leave the mediation section blank?
No.
Mediation is now mandatory, but you will offer £0 to settle and your offer won’t be accepted. It’s a box-ticking exercise for the court system.
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Re: VCS - Parked after expiry time - Powis Car Park, Woolwich
« Reply #32 on: »
You are looking at a copy of the claimants, out of date form. As mentioned above, mediation is now mandatory.

Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
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• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: VCS - Parked after expiry time - Powis Car Park, Woolwich
« Reply #33 on: »
A date has now been set for the court hearing next month, and DCB Legal have filed a witness statement. So unfortunately it looks like they intend to pursue this in court :/

Is there anyone I could DM directly to share the witness statement, and discuss next steps? I'd rather not post the entire witness statement online to avoid leaking personal information.


Thanks

Re: VCS - Parked after expiry time - Powis Car Park, Woolwich
« Reply #34 on: »
We don't generally conduct advice in private - part of the benefit of a forum is that you can see other people's cases and use them to help you with your own.

You can redact personal information before sharing your draft. When is the hearing, when is their deadline for paying the hearing fee, and when is your deadline for submitting Witness statements.

Re: VCS - Parked after expiry time - Powis Car Park, Woolwich
« Reply #35 on: »
The hearing has been scheduled for the 27th of April, with the fee to be paid by the claimnant. Unfortunately I've missed the deadline to submit witness statement. Will contact the court to see if it's still possible to submit it.

I'd like to address some of the points made in their witness statement, if appropriate to do so in my own witness statement. For reference I've linked their witness statement here: https://pdfhost.io/v/LQGdjELJ3m_Witness_Statement

In particular, I'm seeking guidance on how to respond to the following two claims:

I refer to the decision in One Parking Solution Ltd v Wilshaw [2021] (“Wilshaw”) whereby it was found  that  it  is not  necessary  for  the Claimant  
to  prove the  Landowner’s  authority  to  constitute  a valid cause of action to recover the Parking Charge,
what is required is proof that there is a binding contract between the Claimant and the Defendant.
Further, it was found in Wilshaw that the contract between the Claimant and the Freeholder (Landowner) does not affect the validity of any contract between the Claimant and the Defendant.

My Company acknowledges the Defendant’s reference to another unrelated Claim that had been struck out due to the Particulars of Claim.
Respectfully, this is irrelevant, the Court has not determined the Particulars of Claim for this Claim to be insufficient when considering the case prior to allocation.
The Defendant seeking to rely on an unrelated matter is frivolous at best. The Charge remains due and the Defendant remains liable.
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 03:33:39 pm by m_odwong@hotmail.com »

Re: VCS - Parked after expiry time - Powis Car Park, Woolwich
« Reply #36 on: »
When was the deadline for submitting?
When is the claimant's deadline for paying the fee?

Re: VCS - Parked after expiry time - Powis Car Park, Woolwich
« Reply #37 on: »
Please contact the Court as a matter of urgency with regard to Witness Statement submission.

Check on MCOL to see if a submission is still possible?

Please answer the other questions above as quickly as possible.

Having checked the evidence PDF, I can see that the original NtK is not PoFA compliant as a section of mandatory wording required by Schedule 4 Paragraph 9(2)(f) is missing from the VCS issued NtK.

I also note with interest that VCS wrongly state that you have admitted that you were the driver - I have read the appeal and I can see that you appealed as keeper and that the driver was never revealed.

In the VCS appeal response they wrongly state that you admitted to being the driver - this demonstrates how VCS behave.

Can we assume that the Witness for VCS is in fact the hapless Jake Burgess? No need to redact anything other than your personal details!

I can come up with some defence points.

They will probably pull out anyway.
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 05:56:51 pm by InterCity125 »

Re: VCS - Parked after expiry time - Powis Car Park, Woolwich
« Reply #38 on: »
Thanks all for all the help so far.

The deadline for paying the fee is 30th Mar 2026, the deadline for submitting: "to the other party and to the court office copies of all documents on which that party intends to rely at the hearing no later than 4pm on 27th February 2026".

Yes correct, I never admitted to being the driver.

And yes the witness is indeed Jake Burgess, I thought I'd better err on the side of caution before releasing someone else's personal details, even if they were acting in an official capacity.

Re: VCS - Parked after expiry time - Powis Car Park, Woolwich
« Reply #39 on: »
Can I ask when VCS submitted their Witness Statement?

Re: VCS - Parked after expiry time - Powis Car Park, Woolwich
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If you can get something written over the weekend, send it to the relevant parties on Monday and essentially hope for the best. There's sometimes a fair amount of leeway given to litigants in person, so you might as well try.

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They will probably pull out anyway.
Which solicitors (if any) are they using? VCS can be one of the more stubborn ones who do actually turn up for hearings and even routinely send their advocates to court with instructions to seek permission to appeal if they lose.