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Hello Everyone

Today a Private Parking Charge Notice Reminder was received from ParkingEye for overstaying at the Home Bargains Car Park in Shipley. The original PCN has not been received by the registered keeper of the vehicle.

There are essentially two Home Bargains stores in Shipley, one under construction which will share a car park with Lidl when complete and another in the market square that does not have a car park.

The driver shopped at Lidl on 18th December 2024 but they have no record of the transaction as they paid in cash and did not keep the receipt.Today the registered keeper received a PCN Reminder from ParkingEye alleging that the allowed time of 2 hours was exceeded by 21 minutes.

Do I, as the registered keeper have any grounds for appealing this ticket?
 


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Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
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Try and get a copy of the original PCN. Do not let on who was the driver! Parking Eye are not usually compliant with POFA to transfer liability to the keeper, and you have vague location as well. Don't worry about the discount, hold your nerve with assistance from here and you will almost certainly get 100% discount.

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
« Reply #2 on: »
Thank you. I have been to their website and it does detail the postcode. Should I request the PCN by starting the appeals process or just by telephoning them? The only number they give is the payment telephone line.

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
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Do not get into the issue of telephoning these PPC`s or debt collectors.
They may well try to get you to identify the name of the driver.

Can you get photos of the signage?

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
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Make a formal complaint to ParkingEye highlighting that you did not receive the original NtK and that the Reminder Notice does not satisfy the legal requirements of Paragraph 9 of Schedule 4 of PoFA 2012, which mandates that a Notice to Keeper must be served within 14 days of the alleged parking contravention.

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Subject: Formal Complaint – Failure to Issue a Compliant Notice to Keeper (PCN: [PCN Number])

Dear ParkingEye Complaints Department,

I am writing to raise a formal complaint regarding the handling of Parking Charge Notice (PCN) reference [PCN Number], issued in relation to vehicle registration [Vehicle Registration]. I have recently received a Reminder Notice, but I must make it clear that I did not receive the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) that you claim was sent.

As the registered keeper of the vehicle, I am fully aware that under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), you are required to serve a valid NtK within 14 days of the alleged parking event in order to transfer liability to the keeper. Since no NtK was received, your Reminder Notice does not meet the requirements of PoFA.

I now require strict proof that the original NtK was both issued and delivered in compliance with PoFA. This proof must include:

• A copy of the original NtK, and

Either:

• Proof of posting (such as a Royal Mail Certificate of Posting), or

•Proof of delivery (such as tracking details or confirmation of receipt).

For the avoidance of doubt, this is a formal complaint, not an appeal. I am not appealing the PCN at this stage, and any attempt to treat this complaint as an appeal would be inappropriate and contrary to my stated intent. I require the information requested in order to fully assess whether the Notice to Keeper you claim to have sent was compliant with PoFA.

Should you fail to provide strict proof of compliance with PoFA, you must acknowledge that keeper liability cannot be enforced, and I require confirmation that you will cease pursuing me, as the registered keeper, for this charge.

Please note that any continued pursuit of keeper liability without providing the requested proof will constitute a procedural failure on your part. I reserve the right to escalate this matter to the British Parking Association (BPA), the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO), and refer to it in any formal defence or counterclaim should you attempt to take this matter further.

I expect you to give this matter your immediate attention and provide a copy of the original NtK along with the requested evidence of its issuance and delivery.

Yours sincerely,

[Your Name]
Registered Keeper
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
« Reply #5 on: »
I appreciate your help. I have submitted a complaint and have received an immediate acknowledgement stating they will respond within 28 days.I presume I now wait until I get a formal response from them. Thank you.

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
« Reply #6 on: »
Hello. I have had the following response to my complaint. Not sure where I go from here so any advice is appreciated.

"We are writing in relation to your below enquiry.
 
We would like to highlight that Parkingeye are member of the British Parking Association and operate in line with the Private Parking Sector Single Code of Practice. All our signage and processes are compliant with the code of practice.
 
We can confirm our records show that correspondence was issued via the post on 21/12/2024 and 30/12/2024. (Please see the attached copies of the correspondence).We do appreciate your frustrations regarding the postal issues; however, any Royal Mail postal issues are unfortunately out Parkingeye’s control.
 
If you do wish to submit an appeal, please do so by completing the appeals form via the driver portal on our website. This can be found by clicking the link below, or by post to Appeals Department, Parkingeye Ltd, PO Box 117, Blyth, NE24 9EJ.
www.parkingeye.co.uk/appeal
 
Until then, Parking Charge xxxxxxx remains outstanding.
 
Payment can be made by telephoning 0330 555 4444, by visiting www.parkingeye.co.uk/payments or alternatively by posting a cheque/postal order to Parkingeye Ltd, PO Box 117, Blyth, NE24 9EJ.Please ensure you write your reference number on the reverse of any cheque/postal order so the payment can be allocated."

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
« Reply #7 on: »
Did they include an "Proof of posting" certificate? If not, respond with the following:

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Subject: Follow-Up to Formal Complaint – Failure to Issue a Compliant Notice to Keeper (PCN: [PCN Number])

Dear ParkingEye Complaints Department,

Thank you for your response dated [date]. However, it does not adequately address the formal complaint raised regarding your failure to demonstrate compliance with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA).

Your response does not provide strict proof that the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) was both issued, posted and delivered in compliance with PoFA requirements. Simply stating that correspondence was "issued" on specific dates does not suffice. To clarify, I require:

• A copy of the original NtK

• Proof of posting (e.g., a Royal Mail Certificate of Posting) or;

• Proof of delivery (e.g., tracking details or confirmation of receipt)

Without such proof, you cannot enforce keeper liability under PoFA.

Additionally, I must reiterate that this is a formal complaint, not an appeal. Referring me to your appeal process or claiming Royal Mail postal issues as a defence is irrelevant. If you cannot provide the requested proof, you must confirm in writing that keeper liability is unenforceable, and cease all further correspondence pursuing this charge.

If you fail to adequately address this complaint, I will escalate the matter to the British Parking Association (BPA) and the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) for investigation. I will also reference your procedural failings in any formal defence or counterclaim should you attempt to take this matter further.

I expect your response within 14 days.

Yours sincerely,

[Your Name]
Registered Keeper
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
« Reply #8 on: »
Thanks for this. I have just noticed that they put at the end of their email that they have now closed the complaint and that their response is final so do I raise a new complaint or continue to reference the original complaint number?

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
« Reply #9 on: »
So why didn't you show us the whole response? Just send it anyway and if there is no reply within 10 days, come back and we can prepare a formal complaint to the BPA.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
« Reply #10 on: »
Hello. It has been 10 working days since I sent the email you drafted to ParkingEye and I have had no response from them. I would appreciate your help in raising a formal complaint with the BPA.Kind regards,

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
« Reply #11 on: »
You gave them 14 days to respond. Come back after 14 days have elapsed if no response by then.

Here is a draft complaint to the BPA about ParkingEye's failure to respond when you're ready:

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Subject: Formal Complaint Against ParkingEye – Failure to Address Keeper Liability & Non-Compliance with BPA Code of Practice

Dear BPA Compliance Team,

I am writing to formally escalate a complaint against ParkingEye Ltd regarding their failure to handle a formal complaint appropriately and their non-compliance with the BPA/IPC Private Parking Sector Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP).

1. Background of the Complaint

On [date], I submitted a formal complaint to ParkingEye regarding Parking Charge Notice [PCN Number], issued in relation to vehicle [Vehicle Registration]. My complaint specifically raised concerns about their failure to issue a compliant Notice to Keeper (NtK) in accordance with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA).

The basis of my complaint was:

• I never received the original NtK.

• ParkingEye's Reminder Notice did not comply with PoFA.

• ParkingEye failed to provide proof of posting (e.g., a Royal Mail Certificate of Posting) or proof of delivery (e.g., tracking or confirmation of receipt), which is required to establish whether the NtK was served in compliance with PoFA.

2. ParkingEye’s Inadequate Response & Breach of BPA Code

On [date of PE’s response], ParkingEye responded but failed to provide strict proof that the NtK was:

• Properly issued in compliance with PoFA.

• Served on the Keeper within the required statutory timeframe.

• Delivered via a traceable postal method to establish proper service.

Instead, they merely stated that correspondence was "issued" on specific dates and attempted to divert my complaint into their appeals process, which was wholly inappropriate. They also dismissed my concerns by blaming potential Royal Mail postal issues, which is neither a valid excuse nor an answer to the fundamental PoFA compliance concerns.

Given the inadequacy of their response, I followed up on [date of second email], reiterating the complaint and setting a clear 14-day deadline for response. ParkingEye has now failed to respond within this timeframe, which is a breach of:

• BPA’s Code of Practice on complaint handling, which requires operators to respond in a timely and professional manner.

• The general principles of fair and transparent treatment of motorists.

3. BPA’s Required Action

ParkingEye’s failure to respond in good faith and their refusal to engage with my legitimate concerns constitutes a procedural failure and a breach of BPA’s oversight responsibilities. Therefore, I request that the BPA:

• Investigate ParkingEye’s failure to provide proof of proper service of the NtK and their failure to handle formal complaints appropriately.

• Confirm whether ParkingEye’s practices align with the BPA’s requirements on handling formal complaints, particularly regarding compliance with PoFA.

• Direct ParkingEye to either provide the requested evidence or cease pursuing this charge, as they have failed to demonstrate PoFA compliance.

• Confirm what action will be taken against ParkingEye for non-compliance with BPA’s standards.

4. Supporting Documentation

I have attached:

• My original complaint to ParkingEye (dated [date]).

• ParkingEye’s inadequate response (dated [date]).

• My follow-up email (dated [date]) requesting a proper response.

I confirm that ParkingEye has failed to respond within 14 days.

Conclusion

ParkingEye’s failure to engage with formal complaints is not an isolated incident, and I expect the BPA to uphold its duty to ensure fair and professional complaint handling among its Accredited Operators. I request a formal update on this complaint, along with a timeline for resolution.

I look forward to your prompt response.

Yours sincerely,

[Your Name]
Registered Keeper
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
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Thanks for this. I have submitted a complaint to the BPA today and they have assigned a case number stating they will respond within 28 days. I will keep you posted. Once again, many thanks.

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
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Hello. I have had an email from BPA and this is their response:


"Thank you for your enquiry.

Our Role
Our role as an Accredited Trade Association is to investigate alleged breaches of our Code of Practice where evidence can be supplied and our members internal complaints policy has been exhausted. We are unable to become involved in individual Parking Charge disputes.

About your Case
You have stated that the Notice to Keeper and Reminder letter are not compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 however, you have not provided any evidence of this so, we cannot look into this for you.

The Code of Practice states:

8.1.2 NOTE 2: A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered on the second working day after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose, “working day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a public holiday in England and Wales.

It would up to the motorist to show that the Parking Charge was not delivered within this timeframe.

Next Steps
I note you have complained to the Operator and they have referred you to us, unfortunately, as your complaint does not relate to a breach of the Code of Practice we are unable to investigate your complaint further. 

We are sorry we cannot assist you on this occasion.

Kind regards


British Parking Association"


I am at a loss to understand how anybody proves they did not receive something!

Re: Private Parking Charge Notice from Parkingeye, Home Bargains, Shipley
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Use the following as a response:

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British Parking Association (BPA) Compliance Department 
Haywards Heath Business Park 
4th Floor, West Point 
78 Queens Road 
Haywards Heath, RH16 1EB 

Subject: Formal Complaint: BPA Response Misrepresenting PoFA Compliance & Code of Practice Obligations 

Dear BPA Compliance Team, 

I am writing to formally challenge your response to my complaint regarding the private parking operator’s failure to comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) and the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP) Section 8.1.2(e) Note 2. Your response was not only evasive but also misleading in its selective quoting of the BPA’s own Code of Practice. Given the serious nature of this matter, I request a substantive response that properly addresses the concerns raised. 


 

1. Background & Facts 

I initially raised a complaint about the failure of a BPA member operator to comply with PoFA’s delivery requirements for a Notice to Keeper (NtK). The BPA responded by quoting PPSCoP 8.1.2(e) Note 2, stating that a notice is presumed to be delivered two working days after posting unless proven otherwise. However, your response conveniently omitted the second half of the same Note, which clearly states: 

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“Therefore, parking operators must retain a record of the date of posting of a notice, not simply of that notice having been generated (e.g. the date that any third-party Mail Consolidator actually put it in the postal system).”
 

This omission is crucial, as it misrepresents the obligations placed upon operators and attempts to shift the burden of proof onto motorists rather than ensuring compliance from your members. 


 

2. Legal Violations 

Your failure to acknowledge the full text of PPSCoP 8.1.2(e) Note 2 directly contradicts the BPA’s role as a regulatory body overseeing fair enforcement practices. The following issues arise: 

 
1. Failure to Ensure Code of Practice Compliance: The operator is required to retain proof of the actual date of posting, not simply the date the notice was generated. Your response does not confirm whether the operator has provided this proof. 

2. Improper Burden of Proof Allocation: By stating that it is up to the motorist to disprove the presumption of delivery, you ignore the requirement that the operator must retain and provide evidence of posting before such a presumption can apply. 

3. Regulatory Oversight Failure: If the BPA does not enforce this requirement, it undermines the integrity of the entire enforcement framework and calls into question its role as a regulatory body. 
 


 

3. Requested BPA Actions 

In light of the above, I request that the BPA: 

 
1. Provide a clear response on why the second half of PPSCoP 8.1.2(e) Note 2 was omitted from your reply, given its direct relevance to this complaint. 

2. Confirm whether the parking operator has retained actual proof of posting and, if not, explain what regulatory action the BPA intends to take. 

3. Clarify the BPA’s position on compliance enforcement regarding PoFA and whether it acknowledges that the presumption of delivery can only apply if the operator first provides proof of the actual posting date. 

4. Confirm what steps the BPA will take to prevent misleading responses in future complaints, as this selective quoting severely undermines trust in the BPA’s role as an oversight body. 
 


 

4. Next Steps if BPA Fails to Act 

If the BPA fails to address these concerns satisfactorily, I will escalate this matter to: 

 
The DVLA, to report the BPA’s failure to enforce its members’ requirement to keep proof of actual posting of notices, which is necessary to establish the presumption of delivery. 

My Member of Parliament (MP) and the Ministry for Housing, Communities and Local Government (MHCLG), to highlight BPA’s failure to enforce its own Code of Practice and to bring this matter to the attention of those processing the upcoming Private Parking (Code of Practice) Act 2019. 

Relevant consumer rights and regulatory bodies, including the ICO if necessary. 
 

I trust the BPA will handle this matter with the seriousness it warrants and look forward to your detailed response within 14 days. Should you require any further clarification, I am happy to provide it. 

Yours sincerely, 

[Your Full Name] 
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Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain