Author Topic: PPS PCN - for stopping(not parking) on the road (not bay) - Hounslow Holloway Street  (Read 2807 times)

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Firstly, the new version of the single CoP didn't officially kick in until 17th of Feb this year, but it would be rather nit-picky of PPS to use that to your detriment.
I gather from the above posts that you've submitted an appeal to PPS but as yet not heard anything from them.
Have you emailed them per their instruction (in the above posts)?
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Stick a formal complaint in to PPS anyway.
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From PPS website

6. Complaints Procedure

Complaints should be sent directly to info@privateparkingsolutions.co.uk or write to us at PRIVATE PARKING SOLUTIONS (LONDON) LTD, Correspondence Address: PO Box 1115, West Drayton UB8 9XD.

There are three stages to the complaint’s procedure:
• Stage One – The Complaint/Investigation
• Stage Two – Further Investigation (if not resolved in Stage One)
• Stage Three – External Escalation Process

Etc
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Thanks @Charitynjw and @b789

This is the timeline so far. Does the following look ok for a complaint to PPS or is there a template you'd have I could use please?

4 Feb 2025  - received a PCN from PPS in the post for £60. The PCN states it was issued on 28th January for an alleged Parking in a No Parking zone.
8 Feb 2025  - appealed the PCN with PPS via email
              Didnt receive any sort of acknowledgement or response to my appeal
22 Mar 2025 - Received a Notice to Keeper stating the parking charge was overdue and was now £100
              PPS's website was not working and I was unable to contact them in any electronic way
23 Mar 2025 - I raised a complaint with the BPA about the situation and the fact that PPS were not reachable
              Currently awaiting BPA's response

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Subject: Formal Complaint Regarding PCN [Insert PCN Reference Number]

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to raise a formal complaint regarding the handling of Parking Charge Notice [Insert PCN Number], issued by Private Parking Solutions Ltd (PPS).

Timeline of Events:

    4 February 2025: I received a PCN from PPS, alleging that a vehicle registered to me was parked in a no parking zone on 28 January 2025. For clarity, the vehicle was never parked. It was momentarily stopped on a public road adjacent to private land, before turning around and departing. It was not on private land or within any designated parking bay as claimed in your notice.

    Furthermore, I have reviewed the photographic evidence provided with the PCN. All images show the vehicle with its engine running, and all photos were taken within a timespan of approximately three minutes. This clearly demonstrates that the vehicle was not parked, but temporarily stationary.

    8 February 2025: I submitted an appeal in accordance with the instructions on your website at the time, using the prescribed PDF form and emailing it to appeals@privateparkingsolutions.co.uk. Despite this, I received no acknowledgment or response to my appeal.

    22 March 2025: I received a Notice to Keeper stating the charge had increased to £100, despite my appeal remaining unanswered. At this time, your website was also non-functional, preventing me from following up or accessing any further information regarding my case.

While I note that your website has since returned to service, it was inaccessible at a critical time when I sought to engage with your appeals process and resolve this matter.

Your failure to acknowledge or respond to my appeal, issue a timely reply, and maintain accessible communication channels constitutes a breach of your obligations under the British Parking Association (BPA) Code of Practice. These failings have left me unable to properly challenge this PCN, through no fault of my own.

I now request the following actions without delay:

    1. A full written response to my original appeal, addressing all points raised and including a full review of the evidence.

    2. Immediate confirmation that the charge is frozen until my appeal is properly processed and concluded.

    3. An explanation for the lack of acknowledgment and your failure to respond to my original appeal.

    4. Clarification as to why your website and communication channels were unavailable at a critical stage in this process.

    5. A full investigation into the mishandling of my case, along with appropriate remedial action.

Please treat this as a formal complaint under your complaints procedure. If I do not receive a satisfactory response within the timescales set out by the BPA Code of Practice, I will escalate this matter to the BPA, my local MP, and other appropriate consumer protection authorities.

I expect prompt and proper resolution of this matter.

Yours faithfully,
[Your Full Name]
[Your Address]
[Your Contact Information]
[Your Vehicle Registration Number] (if applicable)
[PCN Number]
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4 Feb 2025  - received a PCN from PPS in the post for £60. The PCN states it was issued on 28th January for an alleged Parking in a No Parking zone.
8 Feb 2025  - appealed the PCN with PPS via email
              Didnt receive any sort of acknowledgement or response to my appeal
22 Mar 2025 - Received a Notice to Keeper stating the parking charge was overdue and was now £100
              PPS's website was not working and I was unable to contact them in any electronic way
23 Mar 2025 - I raised a complaint with the BPA about the situation and the fact that PPS were not reachable
              Currently awaiting BPA's response

When you emailed your initial appeal, did you CC in yourself so that you receive a copy of the email showing the email address to PPS?

The PCN was never for £60. It was always for £100 but offered a "mugs discount" of 40% if you paid it early and saved them the bother of having to deal with an appeal.

Just wait for a response from the BPA.
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Nope, I didn't. Never occurred to me to do that to be honest. I've always thought if someone requires an appeal to be sent via email to them, they are guaranteed to also know which email address that email was sent from and that is the email they would use to send the acknowledgement and response. One for next time to remember to do I suppose.

True, you're right. The charge was always for £100 and discounted if paid early.

Cool, I'll hold off on raising a complaint to PPS until I hear from BPA then.

Thanks

Hi,

I still don't have a response from BPA. Their website says they should respond within 28 days. I can confirm the complaint is logged with them as their website shows it is currently in Open-Logged status. Any advice on what to do next much appreciated. I've attached a screenshot of the complaint status on BPA's website. I have a feeling PPS might have already passed this on to debt collection :(

Thanks

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Nobody gives a crap about "debt collection". So what? Debt collectors are powerless to do anything except try and scare the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree into paying out of ignorance and fear. You can safely ignore any debt recovery letters. Shred them and use the result as hamster bedding for all anyone cares.

If you have a complaint with the BPA and it has been acknowledged, go to their website and look at their complaints policy and if it says they are required to respond within a set time, send them a prompt.
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Hello again,

I've received the first letter from debt recovery today. I nudged the BPA for a response 8 days ago but I still haven't heard back from them. Not quite sure how to progress this :-\

I've attached the debt recovery letter.

Thanks,

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You can safely ignore any debt recovery letters. Shred them and use the result as hamster bedding for all anyone cares.
This advice remains true.

Hi again,

I have finally received a response from BPA. It basically asks me to get in touch with PPS to obtain a copy of the appeal response and go through their complaints process. I presume this is the next step? If yes, does the following email to PPS look ok?

Many thanks

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Subject: Formal Complaint and Request for Copy of Appeal Response – PCN [PCN Number]

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to formally request a copy of the response to the appeal I submitted regarding Parking Charge Notice [PCN Number], originally issued on 28 January 2025.

I submitted my appeal by email to appeals@privateparkingsolutions.co.uk on 8 February 2025, using the form and instructions provided on your website at the time. To date, I have received no acknowledgment or response to this appeal.

I have since contacted the British Parking Association (BPA), who have advised me to reach out to your company directly to obtain a copy of your appeal response. Given that I received a Notice to Keeper dated 22 March 2025, increasing the charge to £100, without any resolution of my original appeal, this situation is both unreasonable and non-compliant with the standards expected of a BPA-approved operator.

In addition, at the time I received the second notice, your website was not functioning, making it impossible for me to follow up or contact you electronically. Although the site has since returned to service, this disruption further hindered my ability to engage with your appeals process in a timely and fair manner.

I also note that the evidence provided in the PCN clearly shows the vehicle was not parked but merely stopped for a very brief period (approximately 3 minutes) with the engine running, on a public road adjacent to private land. This casts serious doubt on the validity of the charge itself.

I therefore request the following:

1. A full copy of your response to my appeal, if one was ever issued.

2. If no response was sent, a full explanation for this failure, along with a full and immediate response to the appeal I submitted on 8 February.

3. Confirmation that the charge has been frozen pending proper review of my appeal.

4. A full investigation into your handling of this matter, and your failure to meet your obligations under the BPA Code of Practice.

Please treat this as a formal complaint under your internal complaints procedure. If I do not receive a satisfactory response within 14 days, I will escalate the matter further through the BPA and other relevant bodies.

I have attached the original PCN, my appeal submission, and other relevant documentation for your reference.

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Hello,

Gentle reminder for this please :)

Many thanks

Go back to the BPA and explain to the that the operator has failed to respond.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Thank you.

To clarify, you mean explain to BPA that the operator failed to respond to my initial appeal? If yes, I did already tell BPA that the operator didn't respond and BPA have asked me to get in touch with PPS to get the response to the appeal, hence my previous question about the complaint to PPS. I haven't contacted the operator since I raised a complaint with the BPA
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Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain