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Re: Debt recovery (DCBL) letter received - never received PCN
« Reply #30 on: »
Please confirm whether that N30 Judgment for Claimant (in default) form is printed on the back of a Claim Form cover letter.

What you have received as a CCJ in default. However, you submitted a defence and you should have a copy of the auto response email from claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and also the email of the defence that you CC'd yourself.

You need to phone the CNBC asap and ell them that you have received a CCJ in default for not responding to a claim, although you have evidence of the defence having been submitted. Don't let whoever you talk to try and fob you off by telling you to submittal N244 set aside application. this is an administrative error by the CNBC and must be put right by them.

Also, you must file a complaint to HMCTS about this. It is not an isolated incident.

I am in the process of collating a list of all these cases that come to light, if the CCJ is printed on the back of Claim cover letter. If it is, please PM me and I will give advice on how to get me an unredacted copy of that letter (both sides).
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Debt recovery (DCBL) letter received - never received PCN
« Reply #31 on: »
Hi,

Yes this was printed on the back of the cover letter. I shall PM you.

What do I need to say to CNBC, what sort of outcome am I aiming for?

Thanks

Re: Debt recovery (DCBL) letter received - never received PCN
« Reply #32 on: »
You expect them to get this CCJ set aside using their administrative powers. Tell them to get it put in front of Judge Etherington ASAP.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Debt recovery (DCBL) letter received - never received PCN
« Reply #33 on: »
Hi,

I've phoned CNBC and I was told the process for this issue is to email the same claim response email with
  • a screenshot of the email I originally sent
  • a screenshot of the auto reply email I received
  • and to put 'unprocessed document' in the subject

Apparently this will then be added to a priority queue where it will be looked at but they wouldn't give me a time frame. The agent on the phone said a couple of weeks at first but then wouldn't confirm it. She said a manager will look at the email and decide if there's been an error and get it set aside and put before a judge. They said to phone in a week or so to check progress.

Is there anything else I should be doing in the meantime?

Re: Debt recovery (DCBL) letter received - never received PCN
« Reply #34 on: »
Yes... exactly what you've been told on the phone! Make sure you put "URGENT" in the subject field, together with the claim number. You send it to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and you also CC yourself.

Just hope that they get this sorted before 2nd August.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2025, 09:46:58 am by b789 »
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Debt recovery (DCBL) letter received - never received PCN
« Reply #35 on: »
Update -

After calling a few times, on the 18th July I was emailed by CNBC Claims response team that the judgement had been set aside. However I was told they couldn't find my defence and to be resent as soon as possible.

(I received the 'form of judgement or order' paperwork a few days later which states the "defendant had filed a response prior to the court entering judgement" and the judgement be set aside.)

I re-sent the defence on the 20th July, got the automatic reply but have not heard anything back yet. I have rang to check they received and they've told me to wait.

On Monday 4th I received an email from DCB Legal in response to my complaint I sent on 9th July. See below:

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Good afternoon,

Thank you for your correspondence. I have now reviewed your case file and set out my response below.

Firstly, to clarify, you state in your correspondence that “no Judgment has been issued in this matter.” Unfortunately, this is incorrect. Judgment was requested on 2 July 2025 and granted on 3 July 2025 for the outstanding balance of £291.60. However, it is noted that you have since made an application to set aside the Judgment, which has now been granted by the Court.

In your Letter of Claim response, you did not provide any personally identifiable information. As a result, it was necessary to request this from you. While we acknowledge that your response was dated 9 June 2025, due to the high volume of correspondence received by our office, your response was not reviewed or added to the case file until 13 June 2025. We trust you will understand that it is not reasonable to expect all correspondence to be actioned on the same day it is received. By that time, the claim had already been submitted to the Money Claim Online (MCOL) system, as shown below. You will also note that no defence was submitted in relation to this claim.

Claim History
•You submitted a claim on 09/06/2025 at 14:47:52
Your claim was issued on 10/06/2025
You submitted a judgment against [Name] on 02/07/2025 at 11:33:57
• Your judgment against [Name] was issued on 03/07/2025 at 19:09:31
A bar was put in place for [Name] on 18/07/2025
The bar in place for [Name] was removed on 18/07/2025
An application to set aside (remove) judgment against [Name] was submitted to the court on 18/07/2025
The application to set aside (remove) judgment against [Name] was granted on 18/07/2025
• A bar was put in place for [Name] on 21/07/2025
Now that the Judgment has been set aside, it is no longer necessary to continue

In relation to your request for evidence, please find attached the Notice to Keeper and Final Reminder that were issued to you as the registered keeper, by our client. Where specific documents have not been provided, this is because your request was considered to be either disproportionate or not relevant to the substantive issues in dispute. We respectfully refer you to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Pre-Action Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.

DCB Legal cannot prevent you from raising complaints with any relevant regulatory bodies.

Now that the Judgment has been set aside, it is no longer necessary to continue correspondence in relation to a case that will be closed. Should you have any further questions or queries relating to the issuance of the original parking charge, these should be directed to the British Parking Association.

I trust this clarifies matters and our position is clear.

I now consider this matter to be closed.


So not entirely sure what happens next, they say the matter is closed but as far as I know the judgement was set aside only because they messed up the admin. So is the original case still open? Not sure how it works.

Thanks for your help.

Re: Debt recovery (DCBL) letter received - never received PCN
« Reply #36 on: »
Email the following to them in response. Again, CC yourself:

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Subject: Your Misconceived and Legally Incoherent Response – Claim No: [XXXXXXX]

Dear Sirs,

I write in response to your email dated 4 August 2025, the contents of which are as disjointed as they are legally incoherent. It is deeply concerning that a firm purporting to be regulated solicitors is unable to follow a straightforward court process or accurately represent the status of a live claim.

To be clear:

1. Judgment was improperly entered on 3 July 2025 despite a defence having been submitted and acknowledged by the court. This has now been rectified administratively by the court, which issued an order on 18 July 2025 confirming that a response was filed before judgment and that judgment has been set aside accordingly.

2. Your statement that “the matter is now closed” is factually and procedurally nonsensical. A set-aside order restores the claim to the pre-judgment stage. It does not dispose of the underlying proceedings. Unless and until your client files and serves a Notice of Discontinuance (Form N279), the case remains live and I will treat it as such.
• If, by “the matter is now closed,” you mean that your client does not intend to pursue the claim further, then you are required—under CPR 38.3—to file a formal discontinuance and serve it upon the Defendant.
• If that is not your intention, then you will kindly cease issuing misleading statements that appear designed to confuse or deter a litigant in person from responding appropriately.

3. If your firm is genuinely unaware of this basic distinction, you are advised to refer this matter to a responsible adult within your practice—ideally one who has read Part 12 and Part 38 of the Civil Procedure Rules and can distinguish between the setting aside of a judgment and the termination of a claim.

4. Your vague reference to a “bar” being “put in place” on 21 July 2025 appears to be fiction. The court record, and indeed the Order dated 18 July, makes no mention of such a procedural step. If this is not a fabrication, please produce the relevant court order or stop wasting everyone’s time with invented terminology.

5. Your refusal to provide documents requested in the Letter of Claim response, on the grounds that they are “disproportionate or not relevant,” reveals a worrying misunderstanding of your obligations under the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims. It is not for you to cherry-pick compliance. The Defendant is entitled to inspect any documents upon which your client intends to rely, and your selective approach is noted.

6. Finally, your own timeline confirms that the Letter of Claim response was received before proceedings were issued, but your staff failed to process it in time. That is your failing—not mine—and neither the Defendant nor the court should be expected to tolerate the fallout from your administrative incompetence.

If you remain confused about the current status of proceedings, consult the Civil Procedure Rules or hand this over to someone qualified to practise.

I await your confirmation—either that a Notice of Discontinuance is being filed, or that you now intend to proceed with the claim properly and in accordance with the CPR. Silence will not be construed as withdrawal, and any further misrepresentations may be raised before the court and referred to the SRA.

Yours faithfully,

[Defendant Name]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Debt recovery (DCBL) letter received - never received PCN
« Reply #37 on: »
Hi

Update, so in response to the email above, on 20/08 I got this from DCB Legal:

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Firstly, we apologise for any inconvenience caused.

For clarity, Judgment was previously entered in default on 03/07/2025. The Judgment was then set aside by the Court on 18/07/2025 as a response had been made to the Claim Form, prior to the Judgment being entered.

It ought to be noted, our Letter of Claim was sent to you on 09/05/2025, affording you 30 days to dispute the matter or make payment. We can confirm we received an email from yourself on 26/05/2025 and in response we requested further information on 29/05/2025 in order for us to locate your file. It is noted that details had been provided on 09/06/2025, however your email was not added onto the file until 13/06/2025, which was after the Claim had been issued on 10/06/2025. Following receipt of the details provided, all evidence in relation to the Charge was provided to yourself on 02/07/2025. For ease of reference, please find attached all evidence in relation to the Charge.

Now that Judgment has been set aside and a Defence has been filed, we can confirm our Client intends to proceed with the Claim as it remains their position that the Charge was issued correctly.

Should you be unsure of your position, you may wish to seek your own independent legal advice.

Then today I got the email from DCB Legal, with N180 Directions questionnaire attached: 

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Having reviewed the content of your defence, we write to inform you that our client intends to proceed with the claim.
In due course, the Court will direct both parties to each file a directions questionnaire. In preparation for that, please find attached a copy of the Claimant's, which we confirm has been filed with the Court.
Without Prejudice to the above, in order to assist the Court in achieving its overriding objective, our client may be prepared to settle this case - in the event you wish to discuss settlement, please call us on 0203 434 0433 within 7 days and make immediate reference to this correspondence.
If you have provided an email address within your Defence, we intend to use it for service of documents (usually in PDF format) hereon in pursuant to PD 6A (4.1)(2)(c). Please advise whether there are any limitations to this (for example, the format in which documents are to be sent and the maximum size of attachments that may be received). Unless you advise otherwise, we will assume not.

Thanks

Re: Debt recovery (DCBL) letter received - never received PCN
« Reply #38 on: »
Hi

I've received a N180 Questionnaire. Do you have any advice please for filling it in. I have until 6th October.

Thanks for all your help.


Re: Debt recovery (DCBL) letter received - never received PCN
« Reply #39 on: »
If you do a search on here for N180 you should find several dozen examples with guidance.