I have received ANOTHER Letter Before Claim from Elms Legal. The first was received on Aug 12th 24.This was my response the:
Subject: Response to Letter Before Claim – Ref: VCS22897672
Dear Sir/Madam,
I write in response to your Letter Before Claim dated 21 August 2025, concerning an alleged parking charge issued by Vehicle Control Services Ltd in relation to an incident at Bristol Airport on 28 March 2025.
I dispute the debt in full and request that no proceedings be initiated until your client has complied with its obligations under the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims and the Practice Direction on Pre-Action Conduct.
It is disappointing to note that your letter fails to meet the requirements set out in paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1, and 5.2 of the Protocol, as well as paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions are not optional; they exist to facilitate informed engagement and proportionate resolution prior to litigation. I encourage you to review them carefully.
The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Part 3, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols, require that parties exchange sufficient information to understand each other’s position before proceedings are issued. Paragraph 6 of the Practice Direction clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the dispute. Your letter refers to a “contract” yet fails to provide one—undermining the very basis of your client’s claim and obstructing meaningful pre-litigation dialogue.
I also note that your Letter Before Claim fails to enclose the required Reply Form and Information Sheet, as stipulated under paragraph 3.1(a) of the Protocol. Providing only a hyperlink to these documents does not satisfy the requirement to include them with the letter itself. This omission impedes my ability to respond meaningfully and constitutes a procedural defect. I request that you remedy this by supplying the required documents before any further action is taken.
I confirm that, upon receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with paragraph 3.1(a) of the Protocol, I will seek legal advice and provide a formal response within 30 days. To that end, I request the following documentation:
1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK), confirming any liability under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012
2. A copy of the contract(s) your client alleges exists between it and the driver, including a photograph of the signage present at the location on the material date (not a generic image)
3. The precise wording of the clause(s) within the terms and conditions that your client alleges were breached
4. A copy of the written agreement between your client and the landowner, establishing authority to enforce and litigate
5. A breakdown of the charges claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” fee includes VAT
6. Full copies of any CCTV or video footage relied upon in support of your client’s claim, not merely selected still images. This evidence is material to the alleged breach and is required under paragraph 6(a) of the Practice Direction. I am entitled to review the complete context of the incident in order to understand your client’s position and respond meaningfully.
This information is clearly required under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction, and I require it in order to comply with my own obligations under paragraph 6(b).
Should your client fail to provide this documentation, I will rely on the authorities of Webb Resolutions Ltd v Waller Needham & Green [2012] EWHC 3529 (Ch), Daejan Investments Ltd v The Park West Club Ltd [2003] EWHC 2872, and Charles Church Developments Ltd v Stent Foundations Ltd & Peter Dann Ltd [2007] EWHC 855 in seeking a stay of proceedings and appropriate sanctions under paragraphs 13, 15(b)–(c), and 16 of the Practice Direction, as referenced in paragraph 7.2 of the Protocol.
Until your client has complied with its pre-action obligations and provided the requested documentation, I am unable to respond substantively to the alleged claim. Issuing proceedings at this stage would be premature and contrary to the spirit and letter of the Protocol. Should your client proceed regardless, I will seek an immediate stay and an order compelling disclosure.
Yours faithfully,
Patrick Moore
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