Author Topic: PCN for 3.5min and no signage before entering the road.  (Read 32 times)

0 Members and 55 Guests are viewing this topic.

Hi all,

I've received a private Parking Charge Notice from Parking Control Ltd for allegedly being "parked within a restricted area" at The Green Quarter, Southall, London, England.

The PCN was issued by post and I've attached the PCN, their evidence photos, a Google Maps link to the location, and a video showing the approach to the road.

Evidence:
Google Drive · drive.google.com


One thing that stood out to me is that there are no signs visible when entering the road. The first sign is only visible once you've already entered, and it's quite lengthy with a lot of text on it.

The evidence photos are timestamped:

21:58:45

21:59:01

22:01:06

22:02:20

So based on their own evidence, the vehicle appears to have been there for around 3 minutes 35 seconds in total. The photos also show the vehicle directly in front of the sign.

The appeal portal shows:

Date: 07/06/2026

Time: 22:02

However, the PCN letter itself refers to 21:56, which doesn't appear anywhere in the evidence photographs provided.

My questions are:

Is there usually any grace/consideration period for reading a sign before deciding whether to stay or leave?

Does the fact that the photos only show around 3 minutes 35 seconds have any significance?

Is it relevant that the PCN refers to 21:56 but the evidence starts at 21:58:45 and the appeal portal shows 22:02?

Could the lack of signage at the entrance be a strong appeal point if the first sign is only visible after entering the road?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

Share on Bluesky Share on Facebook


Re: PCN for 3.5min and no signage before entering the road.
« Reply #1 on: »
There is no “period of parking”, see
An Act to provide for the destruction, retention, use and other regulation of certain evidential material; to impose consent and other requirements in relation to certain processing of biometric in...
legislation.gov.uk

Quote
8(1)A notice which is to be relied on as a notice to keeper for the purposes of paragraph 6(1)(a) is given in accordance with this paragraph if the following requirements are met.

(2)The notice must—

(a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;

There is a minimum 5 minute “consideration period”.

A “grace period” is an additional 10 minutes added to a period of parking paid for, so does not apply here.
« Last Edit: Today at 05:38:10 pm by jfollows »

Re: PCN for 3.5min and no signage before entering the road.
« Reply #2 on: »
Thanks. Just so I understand correctly, are you saying the PCN may not be POFA-compliant because it only states a single time (21:56) rather than a "period of parking"?

The evidence photos they provided are timestamped 21:58:45, 21:59:01, 22:01:06 and 22:02:20, so they appear to show a total duration of about 3 minutes 35 seconds. The PCN itself says the vehicle was photographed at 21:56, but there is no photo from that time.

Does that strengthen the "no period of parking" argument, or is the stronger point that they appear not to have provided all the evidence relied upon?

Also, regarding the 5-minute consideration period, if the only sign is visible after entering the road and contains a large amount of text, would 3 minutes 35 seconds potentially fall within that consideration period?