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Hello,

I've received this notice, someone else was driving my car (legally) and swears that they entered the car details in the computer, got a message advising the vehicle has been logged, they attend a gym there regularly.

Can anyone please advise what my options are? Should I just ignore?

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Leave all dates and time showing if you want advice.
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Thanks for prompt response, adjusted the images to reflect dates/times. Also to add more as, according to the charge the driver stayed longer than 30 mins, I've checked on google maps and it does state on the signs max stay 30mins, whereas I am told inside the gym they advise max stay as 2hrs.

As a first point I've advised the driver to contact the gym and discuss this.
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Please reduce the file size of those images. Total waste of electrons trying to open jpg images that only need to be a few hundred Kb, not over 3Mb and 5MB respectively.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Please reduce the file size of those images. Total waste of electrons trying to open jpg images that only need to be a few hundred Kb, not over 3Mb and 5MB respectively.

Done, sorry really new to this.
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Where is "Centurion Point" Chester? I am unable,e to find any car park by that name. According to Google Maps, Centurion Point is the name of a building in Chester.



If the location is not definitively stated or cannot be easily found on a map, then the Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not fully compliant with all the requirements of PoFA. Additionally, the NtK does not comply with the requirements of PoFA 9(2)(e)(i) as there is no invitation for the Keeper to pay the charge.

If the the location I've linked to above is correct, why did the driver remain on site for longer than 30 minutes? Is the light next to the entrance sign working? Which of the premises was the driver visiting? Which parking spot was the vehicle parked in? Is it possible that the driver never passed a sign with the terms and conditions from the location they parked in and the premises they visited? Have you approached the company you visited to ask them to get the PCN cancelled?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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The driver went to the gym, it is that site and if you move across the signs can be seen, however according to the gym they can park there for 2hrs. I've asked the driver to contact the gym and ask them to help clarify this and get the charge cancelled.

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If they can park there for 2 hours and the signs only sa 30 minutes, then is there a requirement for the driver to enter the VRM into a terminal at the Gym in order to permit this time extension?

If so, is there any mention of this on the signs?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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There is a terminal and the driver enters the cars details each time, I'm going to have to get a clearer image of the sign, I don't think it mentions it anywhere ref the VRM...

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That first term underneath the 30 minutes warning looks like it might reference a need to provide one's vehicle reg, but as you note a clearer image will be necessary.

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I'm still waiting for an image of the sign, I don't live in Chester so I'm waiting for the driver to go back there and take a pic, they have also contacted the gym via email so waiting for feedback, they do have evidence on their app of the time they were at the gym.

in the meanwhile, is there anything else I should do to mitigate this, I am told by the driver other gym users have received such charges but have totally ignored them???

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What others have done regarding PCNs, especially those issued by ParkingEye, is irrelevant. Whilst they may brag about "ignoring" them, I can assure you that ignoring a PCN since 2012 is not advisable. The operator has up to 6 years to initiate litigation over a disputed PCN.

Famous last words we often hear here are " I was told to ignore the PCN nut I now have a default CCJ that I knew nothing about."
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Thanks, so should I share the drivers details or wait until firstly we get a clearer image of the sign, secondly feedback from the gym, at least until 14days from issuance to avoid it increasing from £60 to £100.

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Why would you "share" the drivers details when the PCN does not fully comply with PoFA which means that only the unknown driver can be liable?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Honestly, I don't know what to do, hence why I'm on this forum asking for advice. I've scoured other threads, can I therefore assume that I should send an email to them citing the lack of compliance with PoFA 9(2)(e)(i), do you happen to have a stock email/letter I can send? Is one of the stock letters that you or @DWMB2 have advised applicable, like the below:

Dear Sirs,

I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act"). You have chosen not to issue a Notice to Keeper in accordance with The Act, and it is now too late for you to do so.

There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you must issue a POPLA code.

Yours,

Thanks.