Author Topic: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.  (Read 6416 times)

0 Members and 53 Guests are viewing this topic.

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #30 on: »
Do I need to reply to them?

The first paragraph stating I was in contract with them to make a payment/them assuming I was the driver at the time.


Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #31 on: »
Don't waste any more time with them. Just wait for the N1SDT Claim Form and show it to us when you receive it. Only redact your personal data, the claim number and the MCOL password. Leave ALL dates and times showing.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #32 on: »
Letter received from court please see attached 7 attachments spread between 2 posts

post 1

[ Guests cannot view attachments ]
« Last Edit: May 27, 2025, 08:48:07 am by tawnyess »

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #33 on: »
post 2 - see attached



[ Guests cannot view attachments ]

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #34 on: »
We only need to see the N1SDT Claim Form with the Particulars of Claim (PoC) on it.

With an issue date of 20th May, you have until 4pm on Monday 9th June to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Monday 23rd June to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF attachment and send as an attachment in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of Euro Car Parks Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

Quote
IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

Euro Car Parks Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #35 on: »
Just emailed the template today, assuming I don't need to send anything by post as I have emailed them?

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #36 on: »
You do not use post!!! Where is the N1SDT Claim Form that you have not yet shown us, for the record?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #37 on: »
You do not use post!!! Where is the N1SDT Claim Form that you have not yet shown us, for the record?
It’s in one of the posts above, last of first set.

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #38 on: »
You do not use post!!! Where is the N1SDT Claim Form that you have not yet shown us, for the record?

I believbe its there on my post with the pictures?

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #39 on: »
Have received any email today saying the client intends to proceed with the claim. Please advise further



[ Guests cannot view attachments ]
« Last Edit: July 04, 2025, 01:32:34 pm by tawnyess »

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #40 on: »
That is all boilerplate stuff. You now move on to the N180 DQ phase.

Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #41 on: »
That is all boilerplate stuff. You now move on to the N180 DQ phase.

Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.

I have not received any forms myself but I can just use the link you gave me right?

Furthermore I am moving out of my address today, how do i change my address for future correspondence?

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #42 on: »
You have to send a data rectification notice to the claimant and their legal representative. You send it to the DPO and it must instruct them to update their records with your new address for service and to erase your old address. The highlighted words are there for a reason and you must use them.

As for the CNBC, email caseprogression.cncb@justice.gov.uk and also CC yourself with the following:

Quote
Dear Sir/Madam,

I am the defendant in the matter of [Claimant Name] v [Your Full Name], Claim Number: [XXXXXXX].

Please update the court record with my new correspondence address as follows:

[New Address Line 1] 
[New Address Line 2] 
[Town/City] 
[Postcode]

This change is to ensure I receive all future correspondence, including the Directions Questionnaire (Form N180), without delay.

Yours faithfully,
 
[Your Full Name] 
[Your Previous Address] (for reference) 
[Optional: Phone Number or Email]

Make sure you include the claim number in the subject field of the email. Ideally, you should set up a mail redirect service with Royal Mail for a few months, just to make sure that anything sent to your old address is forwarded to you automatically.

Don't submit your DQ until you can see in your MCOL history that an N180 has been sent to you. You don't have to wait for it to arrive before sending your DQ.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #43 on: »
The caseprogression email according to my gmail cannot be found or unable to recieve emails. I have emailed both claimant and legal DPO with request to update address.

How do I look at my mcol history? did a bit of digging but seems that service is down currently


Re: Notice of Debt Recovery - First letter received.
« Reply #44 on: »
What can I say. caseprogression.cnbc@justice.gov.uk is a valid email address. As for checking your MCOL history, you have to log into your government gateway and access the MCOL account from there.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain