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Mayfield Leisure Centre - Euro Car Parks
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Hi all,

Can I get some help with this PCN please?

Was taking children for their regular swimming session and I must've forgotten to register the car on the ipad at reception for free parking.

Can someone help with the appeal? I think I have a couple of days left to do this.

Here are the images to the postal PCN:
Page 1: https://freeimage.host/i/f8xcTRp
Page 2: https://freeimage.host/i/f8xcuON

Many thanks

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Re: Mayfield Leisure Centre - Euro Car Parks
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I'm planning on appealing this PCN with the below. Please can someone advise if this is good? I believe I need to submit this by tomorrow.

I am writing as the registered keeper of the vehicle referenced in the Parking Charge Notice.

I wish to appeal this charge.

The vehicle was parked at the leisure centre while it was being used for its intended purpose: transporting children to their regular weekly swimming session. Parking at this location is advertised as free for leisure centre users, subject to vehicle registration being entered on the reception iPad.

It appears that on this occasion, the driver may have inadvertently failed to input the vehicle registration details at reception. There was no intention to breach any parking terms, no misuse of the car park, and no loss caused to the landowner. The vehicle was parked for the duration of a legitimate leisure centre visit.

I will be supplying screenshots confirming the swimming session attended on the date and time in question in support of this appeal.

Given that:
-the vehicle was entitled to free parking as a leisure centre user,

-this was a genuine and regular visit, and

-any failure to register the vehicle was a simple and unintentional oversight,

I respectfully request that this Parking Charge Notice be cancelled.

Please note that I am appealing as the registered keeper only. I am under no obligation to identify the driver, and I will not be doing so.

If you choose not to cancel the charge, please provide:
-a full written rejection, and
-the relevant independent appeals code (POPLA or IAS, as applicable),
so that the matter may be escalated accordingly.

I look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled.

Yours faithfully,

Re: Mayfield Leisure Centre - Euro Car Parks
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Plan A should be to ask the Leisure Centre to get it cancelled.

ECP will reject your appeal (because they always do) - I imagine POPLA will also reject as technically the conditions weren't complied with.  There is no 'invitation to pay or name the driver' as required under POFA, but that's a fairly thin technicality.  If you don't get it cancelled and don't pay, then it will progress to a County Court claim - but one of the hopeless bulk litigators will take it on and it will be fairly easily defended.

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"ECP will reject your appeal (because they always do) "

Do they? You've more chance of getting an appeal granted with the wording above than the usual attempts to argue over the fine print of the PCN.

Contacting the Leisure centre should be your first point of call, and quickly. If not submit that appeal, you may get lucky, or be offered the £20 discount rate for a major keying error. The driver's inability to follow the rules has actually cost ECP real money to issue the PCN, people might not be very sympathetic about that but it's a reality.

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The opening post suggests that the driver is there fairly regularly - if so, next time they're there it would be wise to grab some photos of the signage to show us.

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I can submit pictures over the weekend. Given the imminent deadline to submit the appeal, shall we just not submit it while trying to contact the leisure centre to get it cancelled? Getting a response from the centre will take some time.

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I'd submit an appeal anyway as this is your access to POPLA.

Obviously, do not reveal the driver.

I'd appeal along the lines of "I am the keeper of the vehicle and there is no legal requirement to reveal the driver. As your NtK is not PoFA compliant there is no keeper liability so I am unable to help you further in this matter."

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Thank you Intercity. Would it work against the driver if the appeal if what I drafted above was used in addition to your wording? Just thinking what would give a greater chance of them cancelling it.