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Hi All

A person known to me has received an invoice from Euro Car Parks - I can see from this forum that they rarely "do court" so happy to fight it. For "**** and giggles" I asked an AI to write the POPLA appeal. This is what it came back with after some kicking to point out the car was leased and so the original NTK went to the leasing company. Would be interested to know what the brains of the forum think of what it produced:


POPLA Appeal – Parking Charge Notice [insert number]

I am the hirer/lessee of the vehicle and I appeal this Parking Charge Notice on the following grounds:

1. Failure to comply with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (No Hirer Liability)

This vehicle is subject to a lease agreement. Therefore, the provisions relating to hire vehicles under Schedule 4, Paragraphs 13 and 14 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 apply.

The operator has failed to meet the strict requirements to transfer liability from the driver to the hirer.

In particular, the Notice to Hirer was not accompanied by the mandatory documents required under Paragraph 13(2), namely:

A copy of the Notice to Keeper
A copy of the hire/lease agreement
A copy of any statement of liability signed by the hirer

These are statutory requirements. In the absence of these documents, the operator cannot transfer liability to the hirer.

As such, I cannot be held liable for this charge.


2. The operator has failed to demonstrate that a compliant Notice to Keeper was served

The operator has not provided evidence that the Notice to Keeper issued to the registered keeper fully complied with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.

In particular, the Notice to Keeper fails to specify the “period of parking” as required by Paragraph 9(2)(a). Instead, it relies solely on ANPR entry and exit timestamps, which do not constitute the period of parking.

ANPR timestamps record vehicle movement, not parking time, and do not account for:

Time spent entering or exiting the site
Time spent searching for a parking space
Mandatory grace periods

Therefore, the Notice to Keeper does not comply with POFA and cannot be relied upon to establish keeper liability.


3. No evidence of landowner authority

The operator is put to strict proof that it has sufficient proprietary interest in the land or that it has been granted authority by the landowner to issue parking charges and pursue them in its own name.

A mere site agreement or witness statement is insufficient. A full, unredacted contract with the landowner must be produced.


4. Inadequate signage and no evidence of a contractual agreement

The operator has not provided evidence that the signage at the site was sufficient to form a legally binding contract with the driver.

The burden of proof rests with the operator to demonstrate:

That signage was clearly visible at the entrance and throughout the site
That the terms and conditions were prominently displayed
That the parking charge was clearly communicated

In the absence of such evidence, no contract can be established.


5. ANPR system reliability and accuracy

The operator relies solely on ANPR evidence. I require the operator to demonstrate that the ANPR system is:

Accurate
Maintained correctly
Synchronized with correct time settings

Without such evidence, the reliability of the timestamps cannot be assumed.

Conclusion

The operator has failed to comply with the statutory requirements of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 and has failed to establish liability.

Accordingly, I respectfully request that POPLA uphold this appeal and cancel the Parking Charge Notice.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2026, 06:06:58 pm by TheEngineer »

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Re: Euro Car Parks - this is what AI "thinks"
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Sorry to reply to my own thread but any appeal needs to go in today as the person concerned was on holiday when the letters arrived

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If the hirer of the vehicle has received a notice to hirer that did not include the required documents, which they never do, and if the driver has not been identified, then an appeal from the hirer to their notice on your first point is sufficient.

Don’t give them waffle after that. If you do, they will ignore your first point and refute the other stuff.

There are plenty of tight examples of appeals to notices to hirers here, use one of them I suggest. Lead them through the legislation and why the notice fails to comply.

If they reject your appeal you have the basis of a simple, strong defence. Don’t try and boil the ocean.
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Re: Euro Car Parks - this is what AI "thinks"
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Many thanks

Ocean Boiling device back in the garage.