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Re: DCBL Parking Charge Nightmare: Wrong Address & Escalated Fee!
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hi, I've sent the SAR to them. Regarding original post, I do not have the rights to modify I believe; could you please help me out?

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If you want your opening post changing, send me a direct message of what you want it changing to and I'll do the honours.

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Hi Guys,

I received a new mail from DCBL today. I'll ignore this. Just adding this here for the record.

However, I sent the email to the DPO@TPS and they have acknowledged the change on their system (apparently).
And, regarding SAR: is that the comment from b789 [on March 21, 2025, 05:44:52 pm](https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/dcbl-parking-charge-nightmare-wrong-address-escalated-fee!/msg63660/#msg63660) ? I've sent this to the DPO@TPS.

If that's not the SAR (subject access request) could you please tell me who to send it to? (DCBL or TPS)?

Kind regards.

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Re: DCBL Parking Charge Nightmare: Wrong Address & Escalated Fee!
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Hi Guys,

I received a new mail from DCBL today. I'll ignore this. Just adding this here for the record.

However, I sent the email to the DPO@TPS and they have acknowledged the change on their system (apparently).
And, regarding SAR: is that the comment from b789 [on March 21, 2025, 05:44:52 pm](https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/dcbl-parking-charge-nightmare-wrong-address-escalated-fee!/msg63660/#msg63660) ? I've sent this to the DPO@TPS.

If that's not the SAR (subject access request) could you please tell me who to send it to? (DCBL or TPS)?

Kind regards.

For clarity, was this recent DCBL  ̷s̷c̷a̷m̷.̷  letter sent to your current address?
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Re: DCBL Parking Charge Nightmare: Wrong Address & Escalated Fee!
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The only party that you need to be concerned about is TPS. If you sent the DRN to the TPS DPO and they have acknowledged it, then what else are you worrying about?

You’ve been advised that you can safely ignore anything from DCBL, so why are you even mentioning them? Ignore DCBL.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Re: DCBL Parking Charge Nightmare: Wrong Address & Escalated Fee!
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Hi Guys,

I received a new mail from DCBL today. I'll ignore this. Just adding this here for the record.

However, I sent the email to the DPO@TPS and they have acknowledged the change on their system (apparently).
And, regarding SAR: is that the comment from b789 [on March 21, 2025, 05:44:52 pm](https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/dcbl-parking-charge-nightmare-wrong-address-escalated-fee!/msg63660/#msg63660) ? I've sent this to the DPO@TPS.

If that's not the SAR (subject access request) could you please tell me who to send it to? (DCBL or TPS)?

Kind regards.

For clarity, was this recent DCBL  ̷s̷c̷a̷m̷.̷  letter sent to your current address?

Yes that's the latest.

Re: DCBL Parking Charge Nightmare: Wrong Address & Escalated Fee!
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Thank you b789, I'll follow that.

Re: DCBL Parking Charge Nightmare: Wrong Address & Escalated Fee!
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Hi All,

Today I received the mail from `DCB Legal` which is different than `DCBL` from the previous mails.
I have attached the document. Could you please advise if there is anything I should do at this point?

Kindestest regards.

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Re: DCBL Parking Charge Nightmare: Wrong Address & Escalated Fee!
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Respond to that Letter of Claim (LoC) by email to info@dcblegal.co.uk and also CC yourself with the following:

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Subject: Response to Letter of Claim. Your ref: [reference no.]

Dear Sirs,

Your Letter Before Claim dated 3 June 2025, contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of evidence your client places reliance upon and thus is in complete contravention of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.

I am the registered keeper of the vehicle. I am not obliged to identify the driver and I decline to do so. As there is no legal presumption that the keeper of a vehicle was its driver on any particular occasion, your client cannot pursue me as driver as per VCS v Edward (2023) [H0KF6C9C].

If your client is seeking to rely on Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) in order to hold me liable as keeper, they are unable to do so. The initial Notice to Keeper was not received, as I had moved address and the V5C logbook had not yet been updated with the DVLA at the time of the alleged contravention. As such, no PoFA-compliant NtK was served within the timeframes required by paragraph 9(5) of the Act. Even if your client were to issue or re-send a copy now, it would be well outside the statutory period and would not remedy the defect. Your client is therefore unable to rely on PoFA to establish keeper liability.

As your client cannot pursue me as driver or keeper, it would be an abuse of the court’s process for your client to issue a claim against me and I will defend any such claim vigorously and seek costs in relation to your client’s unreasonable and vexatious conduct under Part 27.14(2)(g)

Because your letter lacks specificity and breaches the requirements of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (paragraphs 3.1(a)-(d), 5.1 and 5.2) as well as the Practice Direction - Pre-Action Conduct (paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c)), you must treat this letter as a formal request for all of the documents/information that the protocol now requires your client to provide. Your client must not issue proceedings without complying with that protocol.

As solicitors you must surely be familiar with the requirements of both the Practice Direction and the Pre-Action Protocol for debt claims and your client, as a serial litigator of debt claims, should likewise be aware of them. As you (and your client) must know, the Practice Direction and Protocol bind all potential litigants, whatever the size or type of the claim. Its express purpose is to assist parties in understanding the claim and their respective positions in relation to it, to enable parties to take stock of their positions and to negotiate a settlement, or at least narrow the issues, without incurring the costs of court proceedings or using up valuable court time. It is embarrassing that a firm of Solicitors are sending a consumer a vague and un-evidenced 'Letter of Claim' in complete ignorance of the pre-existing Practice Direction and the Pre-Action Protocol.

I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with the requirements of para 3.1 (a) of the Pre-Action Protocol, I shall then seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required by the Protocol. Thus, I require your client to comply with its obligations by sending me the following information/documents:

1. An explanation of the cause of action
2. whether they are pursuing me as driver or keeper
3. whether they are relying on the provisions of Schedule 4 of POFA 2012
4. what the details of the claim are; for how long it is claimed the vehicle was parked, how the monies being claimed arose and have been calculated
5. Is the claim for a contractual breach? If so, what is the date of the agreement? The names of the parties to it and provide to me a copy of that contract.
6. If the claim is for a contractual breach, photographs showing the vehicle was parked in contravention of said contract.
7. Is the claim for trespass? If so, provide details.
8. Provide me a copy of the contract with the landowner under which they assert authority to bring the claim, as required by the BPA/IPC Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP).
9. a plan showing where any signs were displayed
10. Photographs of the signs displayed (size of sign, size of font, height at which displayed) at the time of any alleged contravention.
11. Provide details of the original charge, and detail any interest and administrative or other charges added
12. Am I to understand that the additional £70 represents what is dressed up as a 'Debt Recovery' fee, and if so, is this nett or inclusive of VAT? If the latter, would you kindly explain why I am being asked to pay the operator’s VAT?
13. With regard to the principal alleged PCN sum: Is this damages, or will it be pleaded as consideration for parking?

I am clearly entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. I also need it in order to comply with my own obligations under paragraph 6(b).

If your client does not provide me with this information then I put you on notice that I will be relying on the cases of Webb Resolutions Ltd v Waller Needham & Green [2012] EWHC 3529 (Ch), Daejan Investments Limited v The Park West Club Limited (Part 20) Buxton Associates [2003] EWHC 2872, Charles Church Developments Ltd v Stent Foundations Limited & Peter Dann Limited [2007] EWHC 855 in asking the court to impose sanctions on your client and to order a stay of the proceedings, pursuant to paragraphs 13, 15(b) and (c) and 16 of the Practice Direction, as referred to in paragraph 7.2 of the Protocol.

Until your client has complied with its obligations and provided this information, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim and to consider my position in relation to it, and it is entirely premature (and a waste of costs and court time) for your client to issue proceedings. Should your client do so, then I will seek an immediate stay pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order that this information is provided.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Re: DCBL Parking Charge Nightmare: Wrong Address & Escalated Fee!
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Hi, this is the response I received from them (3 days ago):

Dear JohnDoe,

We write in response to correspondence received in our office dated 14th June  2025. 

                     

We have made a record of the contents of your correspondence and noted this on your file accordingly. 


Prior to the issue of the parking charge, our Client applied to the DVLA for the details of the Registered Keeper of the Vehicle. Your name and address (xxxxxx) were provided. Our Client therefore correctly issued correspondence to you at that address. Having not received payment, address verification was carried out prior to the Letter of Claim being sent. Your new address was located and as such the Letter of Claim was issued to you at the traced address (yyyyyy).



Our client took reasonable steps to identify you and your correct address; but it is ultimately your responsibility as the vehicles registered keeper, to update the DVLA of any changes to your registered address through the use of your vehicles V5.

Further to the above the notices referenced asked you to either make payment or, if you were not driving, nominate a driver by providing their name and full address. You did neither and as such you are now pursued on the basis that you were driving. On the balance of probabilities, if you were not the driver, you would have nominated

The parking charge was not affixed to the vehicle because our client utilises Automatic Number Plate Recognition (“ANPR”) technology on the land where the parking charge was issued in order to manage the parking. This means that cameras capable of accurately recognising the vehicle registration number of a vehicle are constantly monitoring the entrance and exit to the land.  A photograph is taken of each vehicle as it enters and exits the land. Any vehicle found to have breached the terms of parking will be issued with a parking charge via the post.

When parking on private land, the contractual terms of the site are set out on the signs. You are entering a contract and agreeing to the terms by parking and staying on the site. Parking in breach of the terms as stipulated on the signage means that you are then breaking the terms of the contract. The breach in contract would make you liable for a parking charge.   

The signage on site, is erected in line with our Clients regulators (BPA) in order to allow a reasonable driver to be notified of the terms and conditions operating on the site prior to them parking their vehicle. As such the signage on site, is sufficient given the size and capacity of the car park. 

The terms and conditions on the signs stated that a maximum stay term was operating on the land and remaining in excess of the same, would result in a parking charge being issued. The vehicle was recorded on the land in excess of the maximum time permitted and as such the parking charge was issued correctly.

You should always be vigilant when entering any land that you are not familiar with or that you know is privately owned and there are parking terms in place. As the driver of the vehicle it is your responsibility at all material times to ensure you understand the terms and conditions operating on the land prior to exiting your vehicle. Furthermore, it is your responsibility to ensure that you have read and understood the terms operating prior to parking your vehicle. 

The Notice to Keeper was issued to you on 3rd January 2025. You were afforded the opportunity to; appeal the parking charge, transfer liability to the driver (if it was not you) or make payment. Neither a successful appeal, nor an adequate nomination were received, yet payment remains outstanding.


The Reminder Notice was issued to you on 3rd February 2025. This notice reiterated that payment was outstanding and confirmed that legal action may be taken and additional costs incurred if the parking charge was not paid.

If there are any documents that you have requested, but that are not enclosed with this letter, it is because we have deemed the request to be disproportionate and/or not relevant to the substantive issues in dispute. We respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.

DCB Legal have been instructed as all previous attempts to resolve the matter have been unsuccessful.

However, In light of the above, I can confirm that our client would be agreeable to settle this matter in the parameters outlined below.


*WITHOUT PREJUDICE*

In relation to the above matter.

I can confirm our Client would be agreeable to £85.00 in full and final settlement of this Claim. The current outstanding balance is £170.00.   

Should you be agreeable to this offer, please confirm the same within 30 days. Payment can be made via our website www.dcblegal.co.uk, by calling our office on 0203 838 7038 or via bank transfer:
 

Account Name: DCB Legal Ltd Client Account  

 

Sort Code: xxxxxx

  

Account no: yyyyyy

   

When making payment please ensure you include the following reference number, 7xxxxxxxxxxxTPS, to enable us to allocate it to the correct case.    

 

If you are not agreeable, we may continue to follow the Court process as normal.

We would ask that you kindly furnish us with your most up to date telephone number and email address, this can be emailed to us at info@dcblegal.co.uk.



Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/.

Kind Regards,

Jane Doe,
Administration Associate

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Re: DCBL Parking Charge Nightmare: Wrong Address & Escalated Fee!
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If proof were ever needed that DCB Legal are firm of incompetent baboons, you have it in the response above. If it were me who received that letter, I would email them back with the following:

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Dear Jane Doe,

Thank you for your letter dated [insert date], which I read with a mixture of disbelief and reluctant amusement.

Your attempt to assert liability on the basis that I “did neither” (i.e., pay or nominate a driver) and therefore “must” have been the driver is not only legally baseless but betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (Schedule 4). As you are no doubt aware—or ought to be, given your firm’s purported area of expertise—keeper liability under PoFA is not automatic and is strictly conditional upon full compliance with the statutory requirements. Your client’s Notice to Keeper fails to meet those requirements. Consequently, there is no lawful basis on which to pursue the registered keeper.

Your assertion that “on the balance of probabilities” I must have been the driver because I did not nominate someone else is not only speculative but legally irrelevant. There is no statutory obligation on the keeper to identify the driver, and your attempt to reverse the burden of proof is as desperate as it is inept. If this is the standard of legal reasoning employed at DCB Legal, it is little wonder your firm has become a byword for procedural overreach and amateurish incompetence.

As for your client's generous offer to settle for £85, I refer you to the response given in Arkell v Pressdram (1971). You may consider this matter closed unless and until your client is prepared to issue a fully compliant claim, supported by evidence and legal argument that rises above the level of speculative fiction.

Yours sincerely,

[Your Name]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Re: DCBL Parking Charge Nightmare: Wrong Address & Escalated Fee!
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I've replied back with that response not only to that lady, but also CC'd the `info@dcblegal.co.uk`. Thanks so much <3
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