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Advice on how to complete N180 DQ at https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/cpm-parking-pcn-no-permit-bow-london-money-claim-issued/msg62553/#msg62553

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Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.

I’m just quoting from b789’s earlier post.
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Thank you! Silly question but I assume F2 is "no" for asking the court's permission to use written evidence from an expert witness? Also, I see the reply quoted, from a different case with a different claimant, says to copy the claimant's solicitor (I assume this is the dcblegal email address), so I assume I should also copy Moorside, who are the claimant's solicitors in my case.
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Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
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Re: Claim form issued - Parking Control Management UK Limited - parked in unmarked space between double yellow lines
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Hi, thank you - just to flag, I think this is a response to an earlier question, just to flag my follow-up query:

Thank you! Silly question but I assume F2 is "no" for asking the court's permission to use written evidence from an expert witness? Also, I see the reply quoted, from a different case with a different claimant, says to copy the claimant's solicitor (I assume this is the dcblegal email address), so I assume I should also copy Moorside, who are the claimant's solicitors in my case.

Thank you!
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« Reply #19 on: »
Yes, you clearly must copy in the claimants representative. If I have not corrected the email address in the advice, then you can use logic to determine which claimant representative to send it to.

As for F2, do you have an "expert witness" that you intend to rely on that will be in court with you, assuming this ever progressed that far? (highly unlikely)
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Hi :) I have my mediation call tomorrow, is there anything I need to be aware of, or is it literally just saying "£0 offer" and that will be it? Sorry for the question, nervous for it as I've not done this before! Thank you as always :)
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I wouldn't get into any protracted discussion about the merits of your case or the substance of your defence. The claimant has had a copy of your defence, and you can make clear that you stand by the points you made in your defence, and that because you do not believe you owe the claimant anything, you are only prepared to offer £0.

The mediator's job is to try and get the parties to settle. You don't want to, so don't let them convince you to.
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Hi! I had my mediation call, which went exactly as you described - thank you. I have a question: the directions questionnaire asked for dates I wouldn't be available for a hearing. At the time, I didn't have any unavailable dates but have since booked holiday. Is there somewhere I can email to update the court? Many thanks as always.
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Since the case is still at the CNBC and not yet transferred, you do not need to submit a fresh N180 Directions Questionnaire.
Instead, you should send a short formal email to caseprogression@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself.

Email address to use: CaseProgression.CNBC@justice.gov.uk

Subject line: "Claim No: [1234567890] – Update on Dates to Avoid for Hearing.

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Claim No: [Insert Claim Number] – Update on Dates to Avoid for Hearing

Dear Sir or Madam,

I write regarding the above claim number.

When I completed my Directions Questionnaire, I had no dates of unavailability to declare. However, I have since booked holiday and respectfully request that the court considers the following dates as unavailable for any hearing listing:

Dates unavailable: [insert full dates, e.g., "15th August 2025 to 29th August 2025 inclusive"]

I apologise for any inconvenience caused and trust this update will be added to the file to assist with listing arrangements. Should the Court require any evidence of the booking, I am able to provide this upon request.

Thank you for your assistance.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Full Name]
[Your Address]
[Optional: Your phone number]

Make sure you add a few days either side of the dates requested just in case of any issues.
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Hello! I have received the following from the claimant's solicitors - do I just email back to decline?

"Without Prejudice Save as to Costs
Dear Sirs,
We email to propose a settlement offer.
Whilst we are willing to present our evidence to the Court, as a gesture of goodwill and to put this matter at rest, we propose a settlement.
The current outstanding balance is £460.16
Our final offer is £200.00
Should you decline this offer, we will present our evidence to the Court, requesting the full outstanding balance and further costs including hearing fee expenses.
This offer cannot be accepted at Court.
Please confirm by replying to this email, and we will update our systems."

Thank you and best wishes :)
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Respond with the following to help@moorsidelegal.co.uk and CC in yourself:

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Subject: Claim No. [Claim Number] – Open Settlement Offer (Drop Hands)

Dear Sirs,

I write regarding the above claim. The Particulars of Claim served in this matter are generic and non-compliant with CPR 16.4(1)(a) and Practice Direction 16 paragraphs 7.3–7.5. They fail to disclose a valid cause of action or provide the essential information required for the Defendant to understand the case to be met.

I consider the claim to be misconceived and liable to be struck out under CPR 3.4(2)(a) and/or CPR 16.4.

Nevertheless, in the interests of avoiding unnecessary judicial time and costs, I make the following open offer: that each party discontinues proceedings and bears their own costs — a drop hands settlement.

This offer is made openly and may be shown to the court at any stage, including at a costs hearing under CPR 27.14(2)(g), in the event the claim is discontinued or dismissed.

I trust this offer will be given due consideration.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Full Name]
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Amazing! Thank you!
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Hello! A reply from Moorside to the drop hands settlement offer (which is slightly ridiculous as it's more than they offered to settle for originally!) - most grateful, as always, for your advice.

The message from Moorside:

"Without Prejudice Save As To Costs

Dear

Thank you for your email.

Whilst our Client is willing to proceed to Court, similarly, we are open to avoiding unnecessary judicial time and costs.

Although we can't accept a drop-hands order, I appreciate the open offer made.

As such, we are instructed to settle the matter.

The current outstanding balance is £460.16.

As a one-off, we will reduce the balance to £250.00. This would cancel any hearing, and the matter will be closed.

I have updated our system."
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You don’t need any more evidence that you are dealing with a firm of incompetents. Their first offer was to settle for £200 and now they’re offering to settle for £250.

Has the claim been allocated to your local county court yet?

I wouldn’t waste any more time on these useful idiots. Wait for them to discontinue or for the claim to be struck out.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2025, 12:51:57 pm by b789 »
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Quote from: b789 on May 12, 2025, 12:47:57 pm
Their first offer was to settle for £200 and now they’re offering to settle for £250.
If you give it a week or so they might meet you in the middle and offer to settle for £300...  ::)
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