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Parking fine from 2019 should I pay . UK

So in 2019 they supposedly parked at Matalan for four hours and they sent a parking notice. They ignored it and they sent a couple more then finally they sent one saying the bailiffs were going to come. This was all from around June to November 2019. they never showed up and haven’t heard anything for 5 years. But today they had a letter and they found their new address and said they got the bailiffs involved again and have to pay £170

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Your story isn't the clearest, you have used "they" to refer variously to the driver, the parking company, and whoever has received the letters (one presumes this is either the registered keeper, or the hirer of the vehicle).

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Thanks will update

So in 2019 the register keeper supposedly parked at Matalan for four hours and G24 sent a parking notice. registered keeper ignored it and G24 sent a couple more then finally they sent one saying the bailiffs were going to come. (Zenith collectors) This was all from around June to November 2019. they never showed up and haven’t heard anything for 5 years. But today registered keeper had a letter and a new company (DCBL) found their new address and said  the bailiffs are involved again and have to pay £170.

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They never sent any “fine” so please stop calling it one. If you can find the word “fine” anywhere in any of the paperwork you ever received about this, I will pay you £100 for each occurrence.

Also, there was never any chance that anyone could just “send round bailiffs”. These companies rely on the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree to believe all this cr@p they have been watching on TV or social gossip from keyboard warriors who are talking out of their backsides with zero idea of the legal process or their consumer rights.

What you received at the time was a Parking Charge Notice (PCN), most likely in the form of a postal Notice to Keeper (NtK), which is nothing more than a speculative invoice from an unregulated private parking company. It is not a “fine” which is associated with a statutory matter.

The Keeper has now received another attempt from a useless debt collection company, DCBL, with a fake £70 added to the original invoice. You can safely ignore any and all debt collectors. They are powerless to do anything, especially sending bailiffs around. Ignore them. Never, ever, ever communicate with a useless debt collectors.

G24 have up to 6 years from the date of the alleged contravention to issue a claim for debt in the county court. Before they can issue a claim, they must send a Letter of Claim (LoC) which is different from the debt collector rubbish because it will give you 30 days to pay, not the usual 14 days.

If/when you receive an LoC, come back and show us. We do not need to know about the useless debt collector letters.

As they are now using DCBL, it is likely that they will use their sister company, bulk litigator DCB Legal to send an LoC and they will issue the N1SDT Claim Form through the CNBC. Very easy to defend and I can say with greater than 99% certainty that if that is the scenario that plays out, they will eventually discontinue as long as the claim is defended and the advice we provide is followed.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Update - another letter arrived today this time a final reminder .

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Ignore unless it is an LoC.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Another letter

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So much for a 'final' reminder  ;D

Continue with this advice:
Ignore unless it is an LoC.

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Right! I have actually lost count how many of these letters I’ve received. And it literally happened nearly 6 years ago, so I can’t even remember anything about it if I did go to court

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Right! I have actually lost count how many of these letters I’ve received. And it literally happened nearly 6 years ago, so I can’t even remember anything about it if I did go to court

You don't need to remember anything about it. If they initiate litigation, the Particulars of Claim (PoC) would have to provide enough detail for you to be able to plead a defence. They never do and this breach of CPR 16.4 inevitably leads to the claim being struck out at allocation stage or, if not, then it is discontinued before they have to pay the hearing fee.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Got my letter of claim today

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Please remind us what date in 2019 the alleged contravention occurred. Not the date of the PCN but the date of the actual parking event.

It may be worth pushing this one to the 6 year limit if it was around June or July 2019.
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What is the date of the original incident?
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24 June 2019