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I got a CPM TICKET. My appeal was unsuccessful. They gave me ticket in dark road. I believe you guys know portal way beside Icon tower. I did not know that it was private road. I have hire and reward insurance. Should I go through IAS? The ticket guy himself used torch to issue me with a pcn. I even explain them that it was dark I did not know there was sign and also that it was private road. So should I go to independent appeal services or not. I can not upload images or screen shots here.

The APPEAL I made was the following;;

Subject: Appeal against Parking Charge Notice 5080xxxx Dear UK Car Park Management, I am the registered keeper of vehicle FH08FYE and I am appealing Parking Charge Notice 5080xxxx. The alleged contravention occurred at 22:16 in hours of darkness. First of all, your own evidence shows that the sign could only be read with the use of a torch/flashlight. This proves the signage was not sufficiently illuminated or visible to a driver at the time of the incident. The IPC Code of Practice requires that signage is clear, legible and visible at all times. That requirement has clearly not been met. Moreover, a driver cannot be bound by terms that are not adequately displayed. If the signage is not visible, no contract can be considered in place. The location lacks the clear, prominent, and well-lit signage that is necessary to form a legally binding agreement. At last, I request that this charge be cancelled. If you refuse, please supply me with a full copy of the signage map for this site, showing positions, lighting arrangements, and proof of compliance with the IPC Code of Practice. I do not consent to your use of my personal data beyond the handling of this appeal. Yours faithfully, Registered Keeper.



Unsuccessful Appeal REPLY FROM CPM IS FOLLOWING:::

Thank you for your appeal against the above Parking Charge Notice.

At UK CPM we consider all appeals on a case-by-case basis. We take each appeal very seriously and thoroughly investigate any evidence that has been provided. We appreciate your circumstances and understand this is not a situation anyone would like to find themselves in; however, these parking conditions have been put in place to ensure fair usage for all motorists and support the needs of our client. After careful consideration, it is unfortunate that I am writing to you today to advise that on this occasion, your appeal has been unsuccessful.

The decision to uphold your parking charge notice has been made on the following basis.

Whilst we note the comments made in your appeal, the signage on site clearly states 'No stopping/parking or waiting on double yellow lines/hatched areas at any time. No exceptions.' As per our photographic evidence, the vehicle was parked on double yellow lines which was in contravention of the advertised terms and conditions. Therefore, we can confirm that this PCN has been issued correctly.                           

Either due to the reason for issue and/or the insufficient evidence provided to support the details of your appeal, we have considered this PCN and found that it does not fall under the category of Annex F the Appeals Charter of the Single Code of Practice. Therefore, if no further evidence is provided, we will deem this to be our final decision.

You have now reached the end of our internal appeals procedure and therefore you now have two options; either pay or appeal to the Independent Appeals Service (IAS) - you cannot do both.

To make payment of the total amount due as shown above, please use one of the following payment options;

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Re: CPM private Ticket
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Please post the PCN and a Google street view link to the location.

You will get nowhere with IAS, but there might be other shortcomings in the PCN that might. After that you will have to wait for the court claim which is almost always defendable.

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Can you get photos of the site during the night time to show the poor lighting?

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This would stand very little chance of success in court for them if it were to ever get that far. It is unlikely to do so. However, just to frustrate them and show that you are not a pushover, you should appeal to the IAS with the following generic appeal:

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I am the registered keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability for this parking charge and appeal in full.

The parking operator bears the burden of proof. It must establish that a contravention occurred, that a valid contract was formed between the operator and the driver, and that it has lawful authority to operate and issue Parking Charge Notices (PCNs) in its own name. I therefore require the operator to provide the following:

1. Strict proof of clear, prominent, and adequate signage that was in place on the date in question, at the exact location of the alleged contravention. This must include a detailed site plan showing the placement of each sign and legible images of the signs in situ. The operator must demonstrate that signage was visible, legible, and compliant with the IPC Code of Practice that was valid at the time of the alleged contravention, including requirements relating to font size, positioning, and the communication of key terms.

2. Strict proof of a valid, contemporaneous contract or lease flowing from the landowner that authorises the operator to manage parking, issue PCNs, and pursue legal action in its own name. I refer the operator and the IAS assessor to Section 14 of the PPSCoP (Relationship with Landowner), which clearly sets out mandatory minimum requirements that must be evidenced before any parking charge may be issued on controlled land.

In particular, Section 14.1(a)–(j) requires the operator to have in place written confirmation from the landowner which includes:

• the identity of the landowner,
• a boundary map of the land to be managed,
• applicable byelaws,
• the duration and scope of authority granted,
• detailed parking terms and conditions including any specific permissions or exemptions,
• the means of issuing PCNs,
• responsibility for obtaining planning and advertising consents,
• and the operator’s obligations and appeal procedure under the Code.

These requirements are not optional. They are a condition precedent to issuing a PCN and bringing any associated action. Accordingly, I put the operator to strict proof of compliance with the entirety of Section 14 of the PPSCoP. Any document that contains redactions must not obscure the above conditions. The document must also be dated and signed by identifiable persons, with evidence of their authority to act on behalf of the parties to the agreement. The operator must provide an agreement showing clear authorisation from the landowner for this specific site.

3. Strict proof that the enforcement mechanism (e.g. ANPR or manual patrol) is reliable, synchronised, maintained, and calibrated regularly. The operator must prove the vehicle was present for the full duration alleged and not simply momentarily on site, potentially within a permitted consideration or grace period as defined by the PPSCoP.

4. Strict proof that the Notice to Keeper complies with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), if the operator is attempting to rely on keeper liability. Any failure to comply with the mandatory wording or timelines in Schedule 4 of PoFA renders keeper liability unenforceable.

5. Strict proof that the NtK was posted in time for it to have been given within the relevant period. The PPSCoP section 8.1.2(d) Note 2 requires that the operator must retain a record of the date of posting of a notice, not simply of that notice having been generated (e.g. the date that any third-party Mail Consolidator actually put it in the postal system.)

6. The IAS claims that its assessors are “qualified solicitors or barristers.” Yet there is no way to verify this. Decisions are unsigned, anonymised, and unpublished. There is no transparency, no register of assessors, and no way for a motorist to assess the legal credibility of the individual supposedly adjudicating their appeal. If the person reading this really is legally qualified, they will know that without strict proof of landowner authority (VCS v HMRC [2013] EWCA Civ 186), no claim can succeed. They will also know that clear and prominent signage is a prerequisite for contract formation (ParkingEye v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67), and that keeper liability under PoFA is only available where strict statutory conditions are met.

If the assessor chooses to overlook these legal requirements and accept vague assertions or redacted documents from the operator, that will speak for itself—and lend further weight to the growing concern that this appeals service is neither independent nor genuinely legally qualified.

In short, I dispute this charge in its entirety and require full evidence of compliance with the law, industry codes of practice, and basic contractual principles.

There is very little chance that it will be successful and if it isn't, you do not pay. The decision is not binding and you will succeed if they ever try and litigate in the county court.
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