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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bus lane PCN Southwark Council
« on: Yesterday at 06:00:22 pm »
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bus lane PCN Southwark Council
« on: July 14, 2026, 11:39:29 pm »
Hadn't intentionally redacted it. Just didn't post this part of the rejection.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bus lane PCN Southwark Council
« on: July 14, 2026, 11:36:20 pm »The date of service?I'm not sure that is unreasonable, if the EN is posted two days earlier which was yesterday, or maybe last Friday 10th July. I say this because Schedule 1 of the LLA Act 1996 says this regarding EN content: -
Which says 15/07/2026, which is impossible as you cannot have served something in the future.Quote(2)An enforcement notice must state—So really the "served on" date is an anticipated date based on postage times and therefore tells the recipient that the council will start counting the 28 days from that date. Of course the word "anticipated" isn't on the EN. so maybe it is wrong.
(a)the amount of the penalty charge payable;
(b)the grounds on which the council believe that a penalty charge is payable with respect to the vehicle;
(c)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the enforcement notice is served;
(d)that failure to pay the penalty charge may lead to an increased charge being payable;
(e)the amount of that increased charge;
(f)that the person on whom the notice is served may be entitled to make representations under paragraph 2 below; and
(g)the effect of paragraph 6 below.
I did think this but I was just responding to Hippocrates as to what I thought could potentially be wrong
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bus lane PCN Southwark Council
« on: July 14, 2026, 08:45:35 pm »
The date of service?
Which says 15/07/2026, which is impossible as you cannot have served something in the future.
Which says 15/07/2026, which is impossible as you cannot have served something in the future.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bus lane PCN Southwark Council
« on: July 14, 2026, 06:00:56 pm »
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bus lane PCN Southwark Council
« on: July 09, 2026, 11:44:19 am »
Yeah. See above I posted when it randomly showed £160.
On mobile so copy paste will do for now
You have these choices:
You can pay the discount charge of £80.00 if your payment reaches us within 14 days of the date of this letter.
You can pay £160.00 within 28 days of the date shown on your PCN.
You can formally challenge your PCN by using an Enforcement Notice form. The vehicle's owner will automatically
receive the form if the PCN has not been paid within 28 days of the date shown on it. The form offers you the
chance to formally challenge your PCN or pay the full £160.00. If you decide to formally challenge your PCN,
please do not write to us again but wait until the Enforcement Notice form arrives.
How to pay:
Internet By credit or debit card at https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking-streets-and-
transport/parking/parking-tickets/pay-your-parking-ticket Please have your Penalty Charge Notice number and
issue date, vehicle registration number and your credit/debit card details available.
Post By cheque or postal order only, payable to Southwark Parking Services. Please make sure you write the
Penalty Charge Notice number, vehicle registration number and your address on the back of the cheque or postal
order, and send it to: Southwark Parking Services, Admail 4197, London, SE1 1ZW
Do NOT send cash or make a credit card payment by post. Post-dated cheques will not be accepted.
On mobile so copy paste will do for now
You have these choices:
You can pay the discount charge of £80.00 if your payment reaches us within 14 days of the date of this letter.
You can pay £160.00 within 28 days of the date shown on your PCN.
You can formally challenge your PCN by using an Enforcement Notice form. The vehicle's owner will automatically
receive the form if the PCN has not been paid within 28 days of the date shown on it. The form offers you the
chance to formally challenge your PCN or pay the full £160.00. If you decide to formally challenge your PCN,
please do not write to us again but wait until the Enforcement Notice form arrives.
How to pay:
Internet By credit or debit card at https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking-streets-and-
transport/parking/parking-tickets/pay-your-parking-ticket Please have your Penalty Charge Notice number and
issue date, vehicle registration number and your credit/debit card details available.
Post By cheque or postal order only, payable to Southwark Parking Services. Please make sure you write the
Penalty Charge Notice number, vehicle registration number and your address on the back of the cheque or postal
order, and send it to: Southwark Parking Services, Admail 4197, London, SE1 1ZW
Do NOT send cash or make a credit card payment by post. Post-dated cheques will not be accepted.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bus lane PCN Southwark Council
« on: June 29, 2026, 11:23:56 pm »
Must be stuck in the Strait of Hormuz.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Parked in a special enforcenment area adjacent to... - code 27 - Southwark
« on: June 29, 2026, 03:46:59 pm »
In hindsight I should have waited so I could have at least put some substance into the reps, but never mind.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bus lane PCN Southwark Council
« on: June 29, 2026, 11:23:41 am »
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Parked in a special enforcenment area adjacent to... - code 27 - Southwark
« on: June 29, 2026, 10:42:24 am »
I already submitted a challenge last night basically just explaining what I explained in my initial post, asking them to cancel the PCN, obviously not holding any expectation that they will.
Are you suggesting I should take it further?
Are you suggesting I should take it further?
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Parked in a special enforcenment area adjacent to... - code 27 - Southwark
« on: June 29, 2026, 01:13:39 am »Ah, yes, butBasically, the law is that the dropped length of kerb must not be blocked. So if one's car is adjacent only to the sloping kerbstone, no contravention has been committed, because it is obviously not droppped, but councils still force their CEOs to serve PCNs for such cases. In many cases this is because a resident has complained, so they keep them quiet by serving a PCN.
you said
“ The sloping kerbstones don't count even if councils think they do.”
I thought this was maybe something to do with the dropped curb and how it’s designed
Of course some dropped sections don't have "transition" (sloping) kerbstones, but a 90degree kerb section. In these instances, one is either by the raised kerb or not, no argument.
Okay yes I see what you are saying now, thanks for explaining.
I'll still submit a challenge though and pay upon rejection. Make them do some work for "their" money, as you say
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The Flame Pit / Re: Becoming a hobbyist PCN Fighter
« on: June 29, 2026, 12:04:44 am »Just because someone says it doesn’t mean that it’s true.Some of us know more than some of the tribunal adjudicators, who are lawyers but vary in their knowledge although they are supposed to be appraised.
I tend to often find this to be the case that enthusiastic laymen surpass professionals in their knowledge and expertise.
Correct, though I still find it to be the case, even if not in this specific context, as I wouldn’t know of course
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Parked in a special enforcenment area adjacent to... - code 27 - Southwark
« on: June 29, 2026, 12:01:21 am »
Ah, yes, but
you said
“ The sloping kerbstones don't count even if councils think they do.”
I thought this was maybe something to do with the dropped curb and how it’s designed
you said
“ The sloping kerbstones don't count even if councils think they do.”
I thought this was maybe something to do with the dropped curb and how it’s designed
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Parked in a special enforcenment area adjacent to... - code 27 - Southwark
« on: June 28, 2026, 07:49:25 pm »
Yes, BB holder. Had time clock and BB displayed as seen in pics to park on the double yellow lines, but then had inched forward.
Any comments on the "sloping kerbstone" now that the CEO pics can be seen?
Any comments on the "sloping kerbstone" now that the CEO pics can be seen?
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The Flame Pit / Re: Becoming a hobbyist PCN Fighter
« on: June 28, 2026, 07:20:09 pm »Some of us know more than some of the tribunal adjudicators, who are lawyers but vary in their knowledge although they are supposed to be appraised.
I tend to often find this to be the case that enthusiastic laymen surpass professionals in their knowledge and expertise.