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The Flame Pit / Re: Cancelled speeding NIP
« on: December 15, 2025, 10:06:33 pm »
NOW we see what has being going on at last.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15386377/Drivers-wrongly-fined-speed-camera-scandal-motorways.html

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The Flame Pit / Re: Cancelled speeding NIP
« on: December 09, 2025, 09:50:55 pm »
There is also this thread on the MSE site where it appears (from the last post) that a significant number of booked and accepted speed awareness course are being cancelled and refunded - presumably with a view to cancelling the entire NIP.
So all in all indeed something odd is going on

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6645074/your-national-motorway-awareness-course-offer-has-been-withdrawn-by-west-midlands-police/p2

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News / Press Articles / Re: Oxford congestion charges starts
« on: October 31, 2025, 07:38:00 pm »
Natural progression in stages
First we get the LTN's where rat runs are closed to through traffic forcing everything onto other roads making them now clogged up all day.
We are now at the next stage of trying to force a reduction in the traffic levels through "fines".

As you say it getting out of hand. Those living in a LTN road are generally delighted as traffic has dropped to near zero, while those on the other roads are furious. Meanwhile builders and indeed myself on one occassion no longer bother and simply park illegally and get the fine and add it to the bill: which in itself suggests that the fines are too low if it becomes simply another cost of doing business. All this quite apart from the cost of parking legally in the first place if you can find a place.

The stated objective of this congestion charge is to stop people driving across the city so you can avoid it by driving out to the ring road, round that and then back in to where you want to go, so its not a true 'ring of steel'. At a cost of course of added congestion on the ring roads. 

How it all work out depends on how many permits the locals use up and how much they want the convience of afterwards simply paying £5 vs that of having to drive out, round and back again, vs the obvious one of not bothering and staying at home instead.

The council are at the same time making all the park and rides - or rather the Ride bit free with a valid park part ticket. Previously you both paid to park and paid to take the bus in.

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News / Press Articles / Oxford congestion charges starts
« on: October 30, 2025, 12:55:34 pm »
Just a heads up
The Oxford congestion charge started this week.
The rules are complex as an usual my disclaimler here is that you need to review the OCC websites for the exact terms rules etc and not rely on the broad rough summary below:

By and large is a 7am to 7pm
It applies to cars only. Commercial vehicles are exempt.
No idea about Camper vans......lots of issues for private cars used for commercial purposes and the hoops to go though to register them: business evidence etc.
Resident of the central area are exempt
Residents of the suburbs get 100 permits per year.
Residents of rest of the county get 25 permits per year.
Blue badge holders (having registered their car) are exempt
No idea how it is meant to work when a car owned by a abled bodied resident entitling them to 25 permits is used to give a lift to a blue badge holder into the city which should be an exempt trip.
Once you have gone though the camera once and used up a permit you can go back and fro any number of times without any additional permit used up... but see below for complications.
If you are not entitled to some form of exemption for the day then its £5.

All of this produces some strange anomolies.
If you have two cars of which you are the keeper then you can register both to have your 25 permits. If however you re-register the DVLA keeper of your second car as another member of the houshold then you can get 25 permits for each car: so your household now has a total of 50 permits. There is a limit to how many cars per household that can be regstered.
If you have two cars registered to you and use one in the morning to drive in that is one permits used up.  If you use it again in the afternoon that is still covered by your permit usage from the morning.  BUT if you use your other car in the afternoon then that is another seperate permit used up.

So far I gather OCC has registered around 50K cars/permits so far.  You need to supply personal/address ID and copies of the vehicle V5 registered at your address to prove you are the keeper and hence your entitlement if applicable to a permit at either the exempt, 100 permits, 25 permit level.


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The Flame Pit / Re: Change of address, V5, licence
« on: October 19, 2025, 05:44:23 pm »
The news about the new ID certification requirements for directors and company secretaries coming in and the requirement to use gov onelogin for future transactions on the Companies House Website have been circulated umpteen times by C.House to the official email address of the company registered with them.

The requirement to supply an official company email address for all communications from Companies house has existed for maybe 2 years.  There is pretty well no excuse not to know about it for those that should know.  I'm sure the BBC will catch up when we get the usual moans and outrage from those that claim they knew "nothing about it" and their company has been struck off as a result of not complying.  Then the BBC/D.Mail/Express can run a suitable rage bait headline

Not before time actually. Multiple entries for directors using different versions of their name ( full or only first and surname) or address and the use of ficticious address has been going on for years, not to mention the typos's which result in multiple entries for the same named director: I had two seperate and distinct entries as a formation agent mistyped my postcode, when I should have had both companies listed together under my name.



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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Misleading signage, electric vehicle parking bay, London Westminster
« on: October 05, 2025, 07:04:56 pm »
Just off St John's Wood Road there is another double vehicle charging twin bay.
This time more properely marked
(Grove End road)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/EdA5UFkuYRQwTKNN7



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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Oxford Council PCN, making a prohibited turn, The Plain, Oxford
« on: September 13, 2025, 10:46:01 am »
Quote from: Incandescent on September 13, 2025, 12:33:34 am
Their only evidence is a video of your alleged contravention. This is normally avaiilable on the council web site. Have you viewed it ? I looked at it, and whilst it shows your car turning left into the first exit from the roundabout, it doesn't actually show you passing a sign forbidding this movement.  This is because the camera is in the wrong position to do so.


Unfortuntely there is a "No Left Turn" sign mounted on the "Give Way" post at the very stop point of the roundabout junction.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WEezhCwiK8GtLA3X8

There is also two intial signs explaining and forbidding the Left Turn onto Iffley Road further back along the street and there are no way a car can get to the roundabout junction without passing this sign
https://maps.app.goo.gl/j8Vb6E4qvzg5qXMJ8

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN- Parked without clearly displaying a valid pay & display ticket or Voucher
« on: September 04, 2025, 09:53:56 pm »
I can only see a small sign as on this zoomed in GSV link
https://maps.app.goo.gl/kpeK47io74CvFUGJ6

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Oxfordshire CC, code 50j performing a prohibited turn, The Plain Oxford.
« on: September 04, 2025, 07:23:27 pm »
It was around this time last year that the Cameras went up...as people were not obeying the restriction on the highly back angled direct left turn off Cowley Rd onto Iffley Rd at The Plain roundabout.
Decision to install them was made in late 2023
https://news.oxfordshire.gov.uk/anpr-camera-approved-to-improve-safety-at-the-plain-roundabout-in-oxford/

The restriction itself has been in force for maybe 10 years.
Here is the view approaching the turn
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HayTUngnVEBeKtDG9

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Speeding fine received after 14 days
« on: August 01, 2025, 06:27:52 pm »
Quote from: NewJudge on July 31, 2025, 04:54:11 pm
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If you look at the NIP the first line of the address (which is not blanked out) is "The Company Secretary"

It says "To the Company Secretary (if applicable)"

I think they all say that.

Not the one I helped someone fill in within the last 6 months from Thames Valley Police.
It was addressed directly and soley to the individual who was the registered keeper.
It added on in a couple of lines adjacent to the individual and their address that "If the addresse is a limited company the requirement for driver details is for the Company Secretary"

It may be other Police forces have different policies.....

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The Flame Pit / Re: ANPR barrier entry exit but charges shown ONLY inside car park
« on: July 31, 2025, 04:45:21 pm »
I've seen hospital carparks like that.
As I recall barrier on entry which records your licence plate.
Then...if over the free period you pay at a paymachine putting in your number plate details and then exit at the barrier which again records your numberplate on exit, checks for payment and lifts for you.
Alternatively if you are within the free period you just drive up to the barrier and it opens for you....which I have been in all cases.

I've no idea what happens if you don't pay, and then just drive up to the exist barrier - does it block your exit until you do? no idea.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Speeding fine received after 14 days
« on: July 31, 2025, 04:37:46 pm »
Quote from: Wildon on July 31, 2025, 02:03:02 pm
Hi I am the registered keeper of the car and the details are correct.

If you look at the NIP the first line of the address (which is not blanked out) is "The Company Secretary"
So it looks to me as if a Ltd Company is the registered keeper.... rather than you as an individual.

I think that means the Company Secretary or a responsible person being a director of the Company (which might be you) has to reply on behalf of the Company, being the registered keeper, naming the driver on the occassion.
The driver will then get another personal NIP requiring them to to supply all their details.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP for speeding received but no info
« on: July 25, 2025, 05:05:01 pm »
Not necessarily
The Welsh GoSafe campaign encompasses all camera types across all of Wales.
https://www.gosafe.org/about-us/


https://www.gosafe.org/camera-map/
Zoom in to Mostyn and it tells you this location is a fixed camera set at 40 - probably the one posted above in the streetview location.


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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Oxford City council, code 06 - Unauthorised class of vehicle.
« on: June 03, 2025, 08:53:37 am »
The point that there is both kerbing up to the where the cars are parked and that the area seems only rough gravel/dirt suggests that it is not an "approved" area to park in.

I think this is where you parked is is not - on the rough patch at the end?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WiJbJZu9rmp49MBq6

The Nissan without the ticket might have arrived after the parking warden had done their rounds and ticket-ed all the vehicles that were at that time parked in this area.  This vehicle then left (with their ticket!) and the red Nissan arrived.  Maybe they will get a ticket when the warden next do their rounds or maybe they will get lucky and leave before that happens.

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The Flame Pit / Re: Speed gun
« on: April 13, 2025, 11:01:49 am »
Yes - We have a community speedwatch in our area on the main through road with is 30 limit.
They work in a group of three when I have seen them and all indeed wearing Hi vis Jackets.
There are also yellow notices with the usual camera symbol on them immediately below the speed limit roundels advising motorists that community speedwatch is active in the area. Highest speed recorded so far has been 65 in this 30mph Zone. They only operate during the daytime.

We also on the same road have a modern smiley face type speed indicators. These are recording 100% of the time but only record the vehicles'speed but nothing about the vehicle itself. Highest speed so far recorded was 90mph - almost certianly a motorbike.

Somewhere I have an email update from the speedwatch team of the number of other offenses recorded such as no MOT or insurance or road tax as well as the speed offenses which become available as stastics info back once they upload the data from the camera to the police force's dedicated portal. 

I'm not sure exactly what happens to the vehicles driver when the speedwatch/police have a catch.

In terms of getting sneaky when fixed "GATSO" speed camera first came out they were painted grey to blend into the background and I've seen them hidden behind trees and even one totlaly invisible directly behind a signboard and back then there were no advisory notices of speed cameras in the area.

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