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Private parking tickets / Re: Initial Parking PCN - Broken machine - No PCN (sent to old address) - St Mary’s Church, Betws y Coed
« on: July 07, 2025, 03:33:13 pm »
Excellent, I've emailed them with the suggested response. I'll let you know when I hear back.

In the meantime, do you think any other action is wise?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Initial Parking PCN - Broken machine - No PCN (sent to old address) - St Mary’s Church, Betws y Coed
« on: July 07, 2025, 09:28:03 am »
I've received the PCN from Initial Parking. Images here.
What would you advise as the next step?

They also stated "Your address change must be provided to Debt Recovery Plus." Would you recommend I do this? (via post)

Many thanks!

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Private parking tickets / Re: Initial Parking PCN - Broken machine - No PCN (sent to old address) - St Mary’s Church, Betws y Coed
« on: June 27, 2025, 10:16:37 am »
Wonderful, thank you!

I'll use the template for the DRN you posted here, to which I'll add a specific request for a copy of the NtK and instruct them to the update of the record with the new address and erase the old address.

I'll post again when the NtK is received. 

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Private parking tickets / Initial Parking PCN - Broken machine - No PCN (sent to old address) - St Mary’s Church, Betws y Coed
« on: June 26, 2025, 04:49:17 pm »
Hello and many thanks in advance,

My situation is as follows:

I recently visited the property I was renting last year to check for post and found the 7th 'Urgent Reminder' from Debt Recovery Plus dated 01/04/2025 informing me of a parking charge dated 27/12/2024.

I am the keeper of the car and unfortunately I had neglected to update the DVLA with my new address (now updated), and the landlord didn't inform me of any previous post and instead marked as return to sender and put in a post box. This presumably included the original Notice to Keeper.

The PCN is from Initial Parking Ltd (a BPA member), for not paying for parking at St Mary's Church car park in Betws y Coed car park. 
The driver didn't pay because the ticket machine was broken and there was no other means to pay. The driver has no evidence of this however. A thread relating to a PCN from the same car park earlier the same month is a useful reference, with PCN images: St Marys Church - 14/12/2024

From this I gather that the 'Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not fully compliant with ALL the requirements of PoFA to be able to hold the Keeper liable if the drivers identity is not revealed. There is no legal obligation on the Keeper to identify the driver to an unregulated private parking company.'


I've read enough to know I should ignore the debt recovery letter but I'm unclear of the next steps.


I expect one worthwhile action is to complain to the legal department of the Church in Wales who are the charity that run St Mary's and are presumably the landowner.

As well as this should I request a Data Rectification Notice (DRN) to Initial Parking and then when the notice is received appeal to them within 28 days, arguing that the NtK is not PoFA-compliant and that no Keeper liability can arise? Advised here.

Or is this not appropriate and should I go straight for a formal complaint? As advised here.

As I understand the next step would be an appeal via POPLA but hopefully this can be avoided.

Could you please advice me on the best course of action?

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