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Private parking tickets / Re: Assistance with POPLA
« on: August 07, 2025, 05:04:05 pm »
Thank you, I have replied as such.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Assistance with POPLA
« on: August 07, 2025, 01:19:45 pm »
I’ve now had the stock email reply from DCB Legal, pasted below. Attached were the Britannia appeal/response, original PCN, and photographs of the vehicle entering and leaving the car park.

Could you advise the next steps? I have not replied.

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We write in response to your correspondence received in our office dated 21/07/2025.
We now respond to the same as follows.

It is our position that the Letter of Claim (“LOC”) is compliant with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (“the Protocol”). The LOC provides adequate information for you to identify the debt that our Client is seeking to recover. We would respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.

For the avoidance of doubt, please note that the timeframe in which to appeal the Parking Charge has expired. You were given the opportunity to lodge an appeal when the initial Notice was issued to you. Given that the case has been escalated to this firm for recovery action, the time to appeal has now elapsed and payment of the Parking Charge(s) is now required.

The amount owed is a genuine pre-estimate of the losses incurred in managing the parking location to ensure compliance with the clearly displayed terms and conditions. Further, in accordance with the British Parking Association (BPA) Code of Practice, where the Parking Charge becomes overdue and before Court proceedings have commenced, a reasonable sum may be added for the debt recovery fees. The correct recovery fees have been added and will not be removed, for completeness we would advise that the fee is not inclusive of any VAT, as it does not pertain to a supply of goods/services between you and our Client.

To clarify, when parking on private land, the contractual terms of the site are set out on the signs. You are thus entering into a contract (by way of conduct) and agreeing to the terms by parking and staying on the site. Parking in breach of the terms as stipulated on the signage means that you are then breaking the terms of the contract.

Attached are copies of evidence pertaining to the matter, however, if there are any documents that you have requested, but that are not attached, it is because we have deemed the request to be disproportionate and/or not relevant to the substantive issues in dispute. We respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.

You now have 30 days from the date of this email to make payment of £170.00. Failure to make payment will result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.
Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -

Account Name: DCB Legal Ltd Client Account
Sort Code: 20-24-09
Account Number: 60964441

You must quote the correct case reference (removed) when making payment. If you do not, we may be unable to correctly allocate the payment. If further action is taken by us as a result of an incorrect reference being quoted, you will be liable for any further fees or costs incurred.

Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Assistance with POPLA
« on: July 13, 2025, 09:25:43 am »
Thanks, should I remove this part as I had not moved address?

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If your client is seeking to rely on Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) in order to hold me liable as keeper, they are unable to do so. The initial Notice to Keeper was not received, as I had moved address and the V5C logbook had not yet been updated with the DVLA at the time of the alleged contravention. As such, no PoFA-compliant NtK was served within the timeframes required by paragraph 9(5) of the Act. Even if your client were to issue or re-send a copy now, it would be well outside the statutory period and would not remedy the defect. Your client is therefore unable to rely on PoFA to establish keeper liability.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Assistance with POPLA
« on: July 11, 2025, 03:02:32 pm »
Thanks, I've logged a DVLA complaint.

I've also had the DCB Legal letter come through now, please see attached. Should I submit an acknowledgement of service?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Assistance with POPLA
« on: April 25, 2025, 10:38:03 pm »
Ah f*** I wish I had, it's now coming up as expired. Bugger.

Guess I just wait for the DCBL letter of claim or pay up?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Assistance with POPLA
« on: April 25, 2025, 09:53:39 pm »
Bump - should I just send the POPLA template as mentioned above? Just conscious I don't have long.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Assistance with POPLA
« on: April 23, 2025, 02:07:02 pm »
On the off-chance, see if you can log onto the POPLA portal and if it will let you submit something. No harm in trying.

If it will not, then it is a case of waiting to see if they decide to take the matter to court, where you will have the opportunity to defend the matter. Where cases are defended, the claimant often discontinues before the hearing.

Looks like I can still access the POPLA appeal form using the code provided. I'm guessing I can just use the same points b789 stated in the original appeal text to Britannia?

Here is the content of the complaint response:

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Thank you for your email.

​Firstly, please see attached a copy of your initial appeal, a copy of the original Parking Charge sent, and the proof of postage for this.

From review of the appeal, you have only mentioned points relating to PoFA compliance and the KADOE contract. In your appeal response, the team have provided the relevant information regarding the Parking Charge being compliant, as well as the reasonings for the Parking Charge being issued. The reasons for the Parking Charge being issued supports the validity of the charge being issued, meaning we had full authority to request your details from the DVLA.

Please refer to the copy attached, showing you had been notified under PoFA, the option to transfer the liability, and the time frames for appeal/payment.

I can also see that we responded to your comment regarding the creditor 'The Parking Charge clearly states the creditor, please re-read the Parking Charge for this information'.

All appeals are reviewed on a case by case basis, by our appeals team (staff members) - templated responses are used to ensure consistency, and to ensure full and correct information is provided across the board. Individual questions raised that are relevant to a case as responded to free hand.

Please refer to the copy attached, showing you had been notified under PoFA, the option to transfer the liability, and the time frames for appeal/payment - I am happy with the response provided, and all relevant questions or points raised have been responded to.

From review of the email trail dated the 22/03/2025, I can see this has not fully be resolved, therefore can only apologise for any confusion or frustration caused. I have raised this with our training and compliance team to review. However, the appeal process was completed correctly.

From review of this case, I am happy this complies with the BPA Code.

​I am willing to allow a further 7 days for payment of the discounted amount of £60​ - this will expire on the 14/04/2025.

Should you be unhappy with your appeal response, you have been provided with the option to appeal to POPLA - please ensure the time frames for this are met to ensure you do not miss the deadline.

We must also make you aware that all complaints must be responded to within 21 days, not 14. This time frame has also been met.

Kind Regards,

Attached to the email are my original appeal, their "proof of postage" which is a certificate of postage from their Unity5 parking enforcement software, and the original PCN.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Assistance with POPLA
« on: April 23, 2025, 07:56:33 am »
Bummer, I got a response from Britannia but had a mad few weeks and pasting it here slipped my mind. It's now 23rd April so I'm guessing I'm out of luck with POPLA now, regardless of the complaint?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Assistance with POPLA
« on: March 22, 2025, 05:13:48 pm »
I hope you didn't use that linked response to an appeal rejection as your initial appeal to Britannia! Their appeal rejection letter suggests you included a load of old cobblers in your initial appeal with references to their ANPR certification, their insurance cover, the BPA Code of Practice (superseded in October 2024 by the PPSCoP), grace periods and other nonsense such as something to do with night time photos (certainly at this stage).

What EXACTLY did you say in your initial appeal that that rejection letter refers to? I don't want paraphrasing. Precisely what you put in your initial appeal.

Before you get any help with a POPLA appeal, we need to know what you have blabbed to Britannia. Are they aware that the Keeper is the driver? Was any reference to the driver made in the third person? Did you use things like "I did this or that" or did you use "the driver did this or that"?

Apologies, I linked to the wrong template. This is the one I used:

https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/britannia-parking-overstayed-3-hour-limit/msg61204/#msg61204

I have only referred to "the driver" throughout, I only mention myself in reference to my role as the keeper.

I don't know why Britannia have included details around night time photos, insurance, BPA CoP etc.

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Private parking tickets / Assistance with POPLA
« on: March 22, 2025, 03:27:12 pm »
Back in Feb I (as the keeper) got a PCN for the driver overstaying by 30 minutes, my thread below has the original PCN details which I unfortunately didn't get any replies to.

https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/britannia-pcn-overstayed-dolphin-pub-botley/msg60714/#msg60714

I came across another poster who got a PCN in the same car park for the same reason, so I used b789's template to appeal via the Britannia appeal process.

https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/britannia-parking-overstayed-3-hour-limit/msg62881/#msg62881

I've now had Britannia's appeal response (attached, redacted of personal details), could I have some assistance with the POPLA appeal wording?

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You too? I also got one from the Dolphin pub!

https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/britannia-pcn-overstayed-dolphin-pub-botley/msg60714/#msg60714

I contacted the publican who didn't sound that interested seeing as we weren't customers at that time.

@b789 thanks for these templates, I'll borrow these to handle my PCN too.

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One more bump. From searching other posts, it looks like Britannia's PCNs are not compliant with POFA Schedule 4 so I'm guessing the boilerplate in that thread should suffice?

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Not sure if bumping is allowed but would appreciate any opinions on this PCN.

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Hi all,

I've successfully dealt with parking charge notices before but it's been a while, so not sure if anything has changed.

This car park is run by Britannia and they allow 3 hours free parking. The driver overstayed by around 30 minutes. The car park itself is owned by the Dolphin Pub in Botley but the pub was not visited - I'm not sure how helpful they would be.

I've just realised today is the last day the driver can take the £60 "reduced cost" option (which naturally they would prefer to avoid entirely).

Attached is the letter received from Britannia on 28th Feb (strangely over a week after the date of the notice), and a snap of the parking signage which is placed at multiple positions in the car park. Can't miss the signs.

Here's a link to Google Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9136561,-1.2705973,3a,18.6y,10.92h,88.6t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0waszzQWmfqJvDg7ZwX-pQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.4015209482451922%26panoid%3D0waszzQWmfqJvDg7ZwX-pQ%26yaw%3D10.921163930066996!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMwMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

No response has been made to Britannia at this time.

Thanks!

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